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That's just great Billy, maybe you can put on a skirt and get a back-stage pass! -----Original Message----- From: billy@v3*.co*.au* To: techdiver@aquanaut.com Date: Fri Jun 01 17:35:30 PDT 2001 Subject: Re: deep air Please help. But NOT with PRETEND DIR. >At 05:32 AM 2/06/2001 , you wrote: >>Bullshit - people do not do the research and read. TDI dropped the >>Extended Range (Deep Air) requirement for Trimix two years ago. I tend >>to believe that is from the drum beating the that George Irvine and >>company have done about Deep Air BS. I am a TDI Instructor, although a >>great deal of DIR technique and methodology is incorporated in the >>classes I teach. > >David, the way I figure it, you can't just 'incorporate' a 'great deal' >of DIR into a TDI or IANTD or ANDI course. > >Unless you INSIST on the DIR methodologies and attitudes throughout the >course, and present it with all the expectations, disciplines and learnings, >you're just putting shiny hubcaps on the same fucked old truck. > >It's not fair on your students to let them think they're getting close to >the real DIR deal either.(and I don't mean you specifically, I mean those >lazy, opportunistic instroketors out there). > >The result will be a bunch of people who do the long hose thing and think >that's it, because their 'DIR' IANTD/TDI instroketor told them so. How can >it be otherwise? > >If you want to teach DIR, drop that IANTD/TDI thing like a poisoned bag of >shit and see if GUE will take you on as a DIR instructor candidate. > >Talk to JJ - arrangements can be made for the real stuff. Anything else is >phoney - no controls - just the same old agency bullshit masquerading as >the real thing, as usual. > >We've been diving as close as we can to DIR for three or four years now. >But we're waiting for JJ and Trey to come over to Sydney early next year so >we can get the real deal. (I want my Gavin and Hal80, too.) It's going to >be good. But just watch for all the stroke instructors to come crawling >out of the woodwork, do the GUE intro to tech course, and then >afterwards, claim to their students they're teaching 'em 'DIR'. > >That kind of bullshit's gotta be killed before it kills, and there's only >the 100%ers that can kill it. > >rgrds billyw > > > >> I won't teach ER any more. If you want ER, find a new >>instructor. If you are going to become a Tech Dive, do your research, >>ask question. Do not just follow the crowd. I have thought long and hard >>about changing to GUE as an instructor. It is hard to come up with the >>time and money away from my business to spend it in FL for the course >>work. >> >>I hope and believe that here are more instructor like me out there. >> >>David >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Paul Braunbehrens [mailto:Bakalite@ba*.co*] >> > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:39 AM >> > To: ScottBonis@ao*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com >> > Subject: Re: deep air Please help >> > >> > >> > The problem is that people aren't aware of the options. They have an >> > instructor that they've been working with, whom they trust, and then >> > the guy says "OK, the next step is to do Deep Air". You try to >> > argue, but the guy is adamant because he wants to make money on one >> > more class. You figure he must know his stuff, and you do want to >> > progress to trimix, so you feel you have no choice. It's classic, >> > and it's criminal. >> > >> > <ScottBonis@ao*.co*> wrote: >> > ~ >> > >Hi Ed, >> > > >> > >I'm having difficulty understanding your message. How did >> > an instructor >> > >"FORCE" you to dive to 180 on air? Did he physically >> > restrain you and pull >> > >you down to that depth? >> > > >> > >I think you need to grow up and start to take some >> > responsibility for your >> > >own decisions. Yes IMHO, the instructor was wrong. Yes >> > IMHO, the dive was >> > >stupid. But yes, you choose to make the dive. So consider >> > yourself lucky >> > >that you dodged the bullet this time and learn from it. >> > > >> > >Take care and dive safe, Scott >> > > >> > >Some weeks it's just not worth the effort to gnaw through >> > the restraints and >> > >scramble up out of the pit. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >In a message dated 5/31/2001 10:00 AM NyWrecker@ao*.co* writes: >> > > >> > ><< ... Ive only ben diving for about 3 years.Im VERRY aware >> > of this deep air >> > >shit BUT i have asked a few people for a limit and cant get >> > an answer.To >> > >start off the rec limit is 130 on air.Last summer i was >> > FORCED to go to >> > >150-160-3 times and 180 on it.The MOD on the 180 was 220.I >> > know stupid BUT it >> > >was with a TDI-IANTD instructor so what do you expect.I >> > tried to get him to >> > >let me use a mix but he wouldnt and i thought he wouldnt but >> > i had to try... >> > >>> >> > >-- >> > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to >> > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to >> > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Paul B. >> > -- >> > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to >> > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to >> > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> > >>-- >>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >>Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. ___________________________________________________ GO.com Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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