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It begins with an I and ends in D....

;-)


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Thomas Tukker=20
  To: Trey ; MHK ; quest@gu*.co*=20
  Cc: aquanaut=20
  Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 6:09 AM
  Subject: Re: Deep air fatality in SoCal


  I think we can make an educated guess here on the agency question.

  TT
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Trey=20
    To: MHK ; quest@gu*.co*=20
    Cc: aquanaut=20
    Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 5:54 AM
    Subject: RE: Deep air fatality in SoCal


    Looks like he was not planning on coming back at all. How many dead =
buddies has this other guy got, and who trained these guys and told them =
that mix was so bad, and who told them that deep air was a heroic thing? =
Can you find out the agency and instructor?
      -----Original Message-----
      From: MHK [mailto:mhkane@pr*.ne*]
      Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 2:56 PM
      To: Trey; quest@gu*.co*
      Cc: aquanaut
      Subject: Re: Deep air fatality in SoCal


      Trey,

      It's worse than we thought..  The ad hoc dive plan was to 320' on =
air, with no deco gas..  He had twin 120's and was following his =
computer until it cleared deco..

      The survivor reports seeing him at 290' heading down to the anchor =
at 318'...

      Solo, on air at 320' with no deco gas...

      Need we say anymore????

      Later
        ----- Original Message -----=20
        From: Trey=20
        To: MHK ; quest@gu*.co*=20
        Cc: aquanaut=20
        Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 2:38 AM
        Subject: RE: Deep air fatality in SoCal


        Mike, this is what the dive industry teaches and preaches " good =
on air", and "depth" - two very important things in the tiny little mind =
of the strokes who teach diving, and the agencies they work for. Now, =
even PADI.=20

        Three of these agencies have "deep air record holders" as their =
presidents: Mouth at IANTD ( whom we have all heard tell students that =
his "personal comfort level on air is 200 feet", Gilliam at TDI who =
broadcasts his love for deep air, and that drooling idiot Hal Watts at =
PSA .=20

        Tolerance of stroke thinking in any form is unacceptable to me. =
I treat them all like the cockroaches that they are, and if everyone =
else did the same, it would eventually become stigmatic to be a moron.

        Mike, I would love to dive that bank again, but I can not fly =
out to help you and Johnny Walker due to work. If you find that guy at =
all, the sharks are going to have eaten him anyway.=20

          -----Original Message-----
          From: MHK [mailto:mhkane@pr*.ne*]
          Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 9:13 PM
          To: quest@gu*.co*
          Cc: aquanaut
          Subject: Deep air fatality in SoCal


          John Walker and I are doing a body recovery tomorrow from yet =
another deep air fatality..

          Facts are reported to me by the USCG..

          Two guys on a private boat go to Farnsworth bank ( backside of =
Catalina).  The plan was for diver 1 to dive first while diver 2 stays =
topside to watch the boat..

          Diver 1 dives to 260' solo on air, when he get's to 10' diver =
2 gets into the water.

          Diver 2's profile was planned 280', on air, solo and NO deco =
gas..  On top of that he brought his video camera..

          After diver one gets on the boat he doesn't see any bubbles =
and tries to call the USCG but the radio doesn't work.  He later flags =
down another boat and the USCG responds.. =20

          BTW, these guys were trimix certified but chose to do this =
dive on air..  I spoke earlier today with the parents of this 39 year =
old guy and next time anyone tries to defend this kind of idiocy I'll =
have them call the parents of this guy and let them hear the pain in =
their voice...

          Later

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It begins with an I and ends in =
D....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;-)</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dthomas@ha*.ne* =
href=3D"mailto:thomas@ha*.ne*">Thomas Tukker</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=3Dtrey@ne*.co*=20
  href=3D"mailto:trey@ne*.co*">Trey</A> ; <A =
title=3Dmhkane@pr*.ne*=20
  href=3D"mailto:mhkane@pr*.ne*">MHK</A> ; <A title=3Dquest@gu*.co*=20
  href=3D"mailto:quest@gu*.co*">quest@gue.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">aquanaut</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 10, 2001 =
6:09=20
AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Deep air
fatality =
in=20
  SoCal</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think we can make an educated guess =
here on the=20
  agency question.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>TT</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dtrey@ne*.co* href=3D"mailto:trey@ne*.co*">Trey</A> =
</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dmhkane@pr*.ne*=20
    href=3D"mailto:mhkane@pr*.ne*">MHK</A> ; <A =
title=3Dquest@gu*.co*=20
    href=3D"mailto:quest@gu*.co*">quest@gue.com</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">aquanaut</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 10,
2001 =
5:54=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Deep air =
fatality in=20
    SoCal</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D4><SPAN=20
    class=3D360285109-10052001>Looks like he was not planning on coming =
back at=20
    all. How many dead buddies has this other guy got, and who trained =
these=20
    guys and told them that mix was so bad, and who told them that deep =
air was=20
    a heroic thing? Can you find out the agency and=20
    instructor?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
      size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> MHK=20
      [mailto:mhkane@pr*.ne*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 09, =
2001 2:56=20
      PM<BR><B>To:</B> Trey; <A=20
     
href=3D"mailto:quest@gu*.co*">quest@gue.com</A><BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
      aquanaut<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Deep air fatality in=20
      SoCal<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Trey,</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's worse than we =
thought..  The ad hoc=20
      dive plan was to 320' on air, with no deco gas..  He had twin =
120's=20
      and was following his computer until it cleared =
deco..</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The survivor reports seeing him =
at 290'=20
      heading down to the anchor at 318'...</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Solo, on air at 320' with no deco =

      gas...</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Need we say =
anymore????</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Later</FONT></DIV>
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</DIV>
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
        <A title=3Dtrey@ne*.co* =
href=3D"mailto:trey@ne*.co*">Trey</A> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dmhkane@pr*.ne*=20
        href=3D"mailto:mhkane@pr*.ne*">MHK</A> ; <A =
title=3Dquest@gu*.co*=20
        href=3D"mailto:quest@gu*.co*">quest@gue.com</A> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com=20
        href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">aquanaut</A> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 08, =
2001 2:38=20
        AM</DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Deep air =
fatality in=20
        SoCal</DIV>
        <DIV><BR></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D4><SPAN=20
        class=3D530462609-08052001>Mike, this is what the dive industry =
teaches=20
        and preaches " good on air", and "depth" - two very important =
things in=20
        the tiny little mind of the strokes who teach diving, and the =
agencies=20
        they work for. Now, even PADI. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D4><SPAN=20
        class=3D530462609-08052001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D4><SPAN=20
        class=3D530462609-08052001>Three of these agencies have "deep =
air record=20
        holders" as their presidents: Mouth at IANTD ( whom we have all =
heard=20
        tell students that his "personal comfort level on air is 200 =
feet",=20
        Gilliam at TDI who broadcasts his love for deep air, and that =
drooling=20
        idiot Hal Watts at PSA . </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D4><SPAN=20
        class=3D530462609-08052001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D4><SPAN=20
        class=3D530462609-08052001>Tolerance of stroke thinking in any =
form is=20
        unacceptable to me. I treat them all like the cockroaches that =
they are,=20
        and if everyone else did the same, it would eventually become =
stigmatic=20
        to be a moron.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D4><SPAN=20
        class=3D530462609-08052001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D4><SPAN=20
        class=3D530462609-08052001>Mike, I would love to dive that bank =
again, but=20
        I can not fly out to help you and Johnny Walker due to work. If =
you find=20
        that guy at all, the sharks are going to have eaten him anyway.=20
        </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D4><SPAN=20
        class=3D530462609-08052001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
          <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
          size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> MHK=20
          [mailto:mhkane@pr*.ne*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 07, =
2001 9:13=20
          PM<BR><B>To:</B> quest@gu*.co*<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
          aquanaut<BR><B>Subject:</B> Deep air fatality in=20
          SoCal<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John Walker and I are doing a =
body=20
          recovery tomorrow from yet another deep air =
fatality..</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Facts are reported to me by =
the=20
          USCG..</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Two guys on a private boat go =
to=20
          Farnsworth bank ( backside of Catalina).  The plan was =
for diver=20
          1 to dive first while diver 2 stays topside to watch the=20
          boat..</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Diver 1 dives to 260' solo on =
air, when=20
          he get's to 10' diver 2 gets into the water.</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Diver 2's profile was planned =
280', on=20
          air, solo and NO deco gas..  On top of that he brought =
his video=20
          camera..</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>After diver one gets on the =
boat he=20
          doesn't see any bubbles and tries to call the USCG but the =
radio=20
          doesn't work.  He later flags down another boat and the =
USCG=20
          responds..  </FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>BTW, these guys were trimix =
certified but=20
          chose to do this dive on air..  I spoke earlier today =
with the=20
          parents of this 39 year old guy and next time anyone tries to =
defend=20
          this kind of idiocy I'll have them call the parents of this =
guy and=20
          let them hear the pain in their voice...</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
    =
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