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From: "Kent Lind" <klind@al*.ne*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: reg freezes
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:21:04 -0800
Wendell:

Obviously saltwater freezes at a lower temperature than fresh water.  That's
why the put salt on the roads.

There's a place in Juneau where the highway runs on a narrow roadbed with a
lake on one side and the ocean channel on the other side.  Most of the
winter the lake is frozen solid while the channel is open water and free of
ice.

In addition to that, when seawater does freeze, it is a more slushy and
crumbly ice, not the sharp hard glassy stuff you get with freshwater.

The question though, is what causes a regulator to freeze? Is it the
seawater that washes into the balance chamber of the regulator that freezes
and causes failure?  Or is it moisture in your breathing gas that condenses
and freezes to cause failure?

I suppose that either could cause a reg to fail.  I've never torn apart a
frozen reg to see what went wrong.  However I suspect that ice forming
inside the air pathways of the regulator from moist air is the more common
failure.  In which case the medium you're diving in would not be a factor.

On the other hand, you guys in the Great Lakes sure seem to have a lot more
problem with freezing than we do here in Alaska.  I used to dive MK20s all
winter in mid-30s degree water and never have any failures.  And I know
people who sport dive for king crab in the winter with all kinds of old clap
trap gear without problem.  Horrifying stuff like old Dacor regs.  I
recently switched to Apeks DS4 firsts because they were cheaper and more
reliable and I've never had one of those fail either.  But I hear about you
guys in the Great Lakes having regs fail all the time.  So maybe regs do
freeze faster in freshwater.

Kent Lind
Juneau, Alaska




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wendell Grogan [mailto:wgrogan@dc*.ne*]
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 6:04 PM
> To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: reg freezes
>
>
> OK, new subject.  We are starting the exploration of a 160-180 ft deep
> reservoir that may or may not have remnants of a town at depth.
> The question that came to mind when my thermometer was reading 36F was
> if there was a big difference in the tendency for a reg to freeze in
> salt versus fresh.  I think there is an obvious answer to this, but
> honestly, I was hoping someone could tell me without my having to figure
> this out on my own.
> Thanks.
> Wendell G
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