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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 12:37:35 -0400
To: "Scott" <scottk@hc*.co*>
From: Skip MacElhannon <skipmac@co*.co*>
Subject: Re: I'm not Beethoven
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
The problem is the guy is a masochist.  He essentially admitted this in an
earlier post where he stated that he enjoyed stirring up trouble on the net and
the outraged replies he receives as a result.

He is only in it for the abuse, making a contribution to diving is not an issue.

Skip

At 06:24 AM 10/11/00 -0700, you wrote:
>  
>Alton,
>
>This guy is a complete sociopath. Psychotic from the socks up. 100% Fruit
>Loop. You can beat him in the face with the truth, and he still sees what he
>wants to.
>
>Every time he runs his suck, more bullshit comes out. I read his laundry
>list of things he is pissed at me about, and I have no idea where 90% of it
>came from. He makes it up as he goes. Including the part about me being a
>dishonorably discharged Marine, and an alcoholic. See, his MO involves
>posting a conjecture, half truth, or out and out lie, then if, because you
>have his dumb ass buried in your kill file, you don't respond to or argue
>with him (why bother!), he takes that as tacit admission of the accusation,
>and runs off telling everyone all about his grandiose hypothesis.
>
>My advice is to do with him here as was done with him on rec.scuba, and that
>is to ignore him (which is why he is here). He isn't here to learn or share,
>only to ruin the list and any discussions about real diving with his ego
>driven "attacks" as required by his extreme social inadequacies. He is
>almost sad, really.
>If he wasn't *such* a punk, I would feel sorry for him.
>
>The only good thing that comes from him, is that he provides a blinding
>contrast to DIR, intellect,
>decency, truth, justice and the American way. He is humping your leg because
>he is a big TDI and Gilliam fan. And because GI, and all the DIR hippies
>from rec.scuba, have pounded him like a piece of cheap veal.
>
>You are, indeed, in some good company.
>
>=;-)
>
>Scott
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Alton J. Hall, Jr. <ahall@di*.co*>
>To: Michael J. Black <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>
>Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 10:04 AM
>Subject: Re: I'm not Beethoven
>
>
> > A attack instead of an answer. Very clever. I am honored to join the ranks
>of those
> > you have insulted. So how much are we going to bet?
> >
> > Alton
> >
> > "Michael J. Black" wrote:
> >
> > > Has there been a settlement or exchange of money?  I am guessing not.
> > > And you know, Alton Hall, your reputation preceeds you.  Word is you
> > > are a pretty flimsy attorney, walking a narrow fence defending blowhards
> > > like Trey, an easy target should a real prosecuting attorney want you.
> > > It seems your bark is much worse than your bite.  I'll be watching...
> > > MJB
> > >
> > > --- "Alton J. Hall, Jr." <ahall@di*.co*> wrote:
> > > > Put your money where your mouth is Black. I am willing to bet any
>amount you
> > > > wish
> > > > on whether George has a judgment against Skaggs. However I will give
>you a
> > > > piece
> > > > of advice; don't bet when you obviously don't know the answer. So how
>much
> > > > are you
> > > > willing to wager? Let me know. Another piece of advice; before you put
>your
> > > > money
> > > > on the line perhaps you should have someone check the Circuit Court of
>the
> > > > Eleventh Judicial Circuit in and for Dade County, Florida, General
> > > > Jurisdiction
> > > > Division, records. The docket number is 98-29116-CA-02. I do hate to
>take
> > > > money
> > > > from the uninformed. Unless of course they are trying to teach diving.
> > > >
> > > > Alton Hall
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Michael J. Black" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You saying you have a $150,000 judgment against Mitch Skaggs is
>about
> > > > > as believable as you actually getting a settlement even if it were
> > > > > true.  Trey, you are FOS, pretending to be a medical expert, who has
> > > > > slandered and/or libeled practically everyone in the dive industry,
> > > > > cavers and non-cavers alike.  I consider myself in esteemed company,
> > > > > to be in your doghouse.  MJB
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Trey <trey@ne*.co*> wrote:
> > > > > > Sorry, Idiot, you are wrong again. Bowden is indeed a stroke,
>Exley died
> > > > of
> > > > > > deep air, although he was a good guy and I dove with him ( but he
>DIR'd
> > > > when
> > > > > > he dove with me ), Hal Watts is more than an idiot ( he has his
>daughter
> > > > > > diving deep air for "records"), Jill Hienerth is a liar ( she has
>claimed
> > > > to
> > > > > > have set a "record" and lied about her dives at Wakulla ), Richie
>is not
> > > > a
> > > > > > cave diver, Bret is not a cave diver, Skaggs is not a cave diver,
>and I
> > > > sued
> > > > > > Skaggs and currently have a $150,000 judgment against him in Miami
>Court
> > > > -
> > > > > > would you like to be next on some of the comments you have made,
>asshole?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would get sued if : 1)   I were not telling the truth, and 2) my
> > > > opinion
> > > > > > were actionable.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Got any more great examples for us?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Michael J. Black" <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>
> > > > > > To: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
> > > > > > Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 5:15 PM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: I'm not Beethoven
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hard to imagine you having any friends, Trey, especially Mike
>Madden
> > > > > > > or anyone else who cave dives.  You have called Jim Bowden
>batman,
> > > > > > > Sheck Exley a stroke, Hal Watts an idiot, not to mention Jill
>Heinerth,
> > > > > > > Richie Pyle, Bret Gilliam, Mitch Skaggs, etc.  I am amazed you
>haven't
> > > > > > > had your ass sued off yet, but then maybe you have.  You still
>make
> > > > > > > me laugh, doc-wannabe ("cycle cell anemia"), and BTW I don't
>smoke,
> > > > > > > but that'd be your style to make something up.  MJB
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- Trey <trey@ne*.co*> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Funny, "doc" I just got back from diving with Mike Madden -
>that
> > > > makes
> > > > > > twice
> > > > > > > > this year, and I was just talking to Scott about arranging
>some
> > > > things
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > me there next month. You just love to run that little mouth of
>yours
> > > > and
> > > > > > yet
> > > > > > > > you just never get it right, do you? Mike and I have been
>close
> > > > friends
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > 10 years, moron.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Let's cut to the chase, "doc": you are a pathetic little bald
>headed
> > > > > > pussy
> > > > > > > > whose lack of self esteem mandates wearing a hat to cover up
>the
> > > > shiner,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > who is a neophyte recreational diver who wandered into the big
>pond
> > > > and
> > > > > > got
> > > > > > > > his pee pee slapped like an errant child at the diner table,
>and now
> > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > little feelings are hurt and you want to get even.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Too bad, go back and learn something and see if you can make
>yourself
> > > > > > > > useful. Right now you are worse than useless, you are a
>dangerous
> > > > > > > > misinformant.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Michael J. Black [mailto:mjblackmd@ya*.co*]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 4:14 PM
> > > > > > > > To: Trey
> > > > > > > > Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > > > > > > > Subject: RE: I'm not Beethoven
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (Wringing my hands) Hey Sheila,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You are one rabid doc-wannabe, and excuse my laughter when I
>see you
> > > > > > > > stick your foot in your mouth as often as you do.  I also get
>a
> > > > chuckle
> > > > > > > > watching you spew superlatives, calling anyone you don't like
>the
> > > > > > > > worst hypocrite, biggest asshole, dumbest stroke, blah, blah,
>blah.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It's been awhile, but I just had to watch you twist some more,
> > > > Sheila.
> > > > > > > > And at the same time, compliment Scott Bonis about the article
>in
> > > > > > > > Dive Training.  I suppose Akumal is for pussies, eh Sheila?
>Don't
> > > > > > > > see Steve Gerrard, Mike Madden, or any of those guys on
>techdiver,
> > > > > > > > but can't blame em.  Why would they wanna put up with you?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > MJB
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- Trey <trey@ne*.co*> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Black, any time you want to compare scorecards, bring it on.
>Yours
> > > > > > starts
> > > > > > > > > with ZERO - as in zero contribution to anything to do with
>any
> > > > aspect
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > diving ever.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If you understood anything I am saying, typos not
>withstanding, we
> > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > be having this conversation. I can spell "IDIOT" right, and
>an
> > > > "idiot"
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > somebody who is a doctor and fails to understand the most
>basic
> > > > things
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > one would expect of him, like a Doc who smokes, or one who
>dives
> > > > air
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > pony of 40% nitrox. Dumb Fuck also comes to mind. Did I
>spell that
> > > > > > right?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Black, everyone here knows the score - yours is easy to keep
>track
> > > > > > of -
> > > > > > > > > still ZERO.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Michael J. Black [mailto:mjblackmd@ya*.co*]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 8:54 PM
> > > > > > > > > To: Scott Bonis
> > > > > > > > > Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > > > > > > > > Subject: I'm not Beethoven
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > And I don't know who his piano teacher was either.  But I
>enjoyed
> > > > > > > > > the article about you, Scott, in October's Dive Training
>Magazine.
> > > > > > > > > Noticed the "danglies" in the picture too, but maybe you
>were
> > > > > > > > > having a bad day.  I'll be in Cozumel in December, and
>sorry, but
> > > > > > > > > Akumal is not on my agenda.  See ya on techdiver.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Oh, and hi to all my buds, like Trey (that was a good post
>about
> > > > > > > > > red blood cell rigidity and "cycle" cell anemia, AKA sickle
>cell
> > > > > > > > > anemia, BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  Trey, your medical knowledge
>cracks
> > > > > > > > > me up!).  MJB
> > > > > > > > >
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