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Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 08:23:28 -0700
To: trey@ne*.co* (Trey), <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
From: Paul Braunbehrens <Bakalite@ba*.co*>
Subject: RE: 80/20 nonsense
Come on, Trey!  You're saying I didn't ask nice enough?  The fact is 
that when people ask questions like this you more often reply with 
insults than with information.  Before I risk my life following a 
certain model, I need some more information.  I don't think that's 
unreasonable.  As far as the archives go, since the ratio of posts 
with information to posts that are just insults is about 1%, it's 
really hard to FIND the part where you "explain it all".  So I ask 
again, did you guys actually study this?  Do you have numbers to back 
it up?  May I see them please?

Not nice enough for you? OK.

May I see them PRETTY PLEASE?

Come on, this list is not about being nice, you set the tone 
yourself!  It's about not killing yourself under water.

BTW, I have no plans on doing the kinds of dives you do.  However, 
I'd still like to do the dives I do with as much safety as possible. 
Getting in your face is not on my list, I've got better things to do. 
I am simply asking for info.  (This post will probably just result in 
another barrage of insults).

Cheers!

Trey wrote:
~
>OFF GASSING
>
>  You see, this is EXACTLY why I hate dealing with idiots: you have no clue ,
>but want to get in my face. The fact is, and this goes for the idiot "guy"
>and the other punk, low ox breaks are a necessary part of efficient
>OFFGASSING while they are merely advertised as a method of reducing
>pulmonary toxicity and damage, and are necessary throughout the
>decompresion, not just during the oxygen phase - they REDUCE the
>decomprssion time, genius, the IMPROVE the offgassing results, and they are
>therefore not counted as no deco time like the idiots morons told you . I
>will NOT tell you why, after this bullshit.
>
>I have been over and over the entire reasoning , logic and physiology of
>this in several articles and posts, but you don't believe me, you instead
>believe some roofer dive instructor or dyslexic moron who does no diving
>instead of me. Do not expect me to waste five seconds now doing it again at
>your "demand".
>
>I will say that successful decompression uses a combination of models and
>theories combined with an understanding of physiology and practical
>experience to explain or "validate" what we have come to find works. I will
>not waste my time on here after being attacked by blubbering goobs and nasty
>little idiots . I'll save the good information for those who approach me
>properly.
>
>You tell me, or should I say I "demand" that you show me the last time you
>did 7 hours at 300 feet and decompressed out in 8.5 hours with perfect
>results, and have the Doppler and blood test to prove it, asshole. Then
>let's "compare notes".
>
>
>Trey wrote:
>
>>   lets talk about what WORKS, and
>>what does not.
>
>OK, let's!
>
>How is it that the air breaks are not accounted for.  I'd like some
>evidence that this does not make any difference, before I risk
>getting bent.  I'd like to see actual dive profiles, % incidences of
>the bends, doppler results etc.  I know you have a ton of experience,
>but would you base something like this on something that someone
>said, or would you demand some evidence?  In the end it's not theory,
>it's your body.
>
>Thanks.
>
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