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From: "Gary Hagland" <haglandg@to*.co*>
To: <webmaster@mb*.to*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: Oz Tek (Thought I popped this off to the list days ago)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 23:22:04 +0900
Am disappointed that NAUI Instructors were attempting to keep their students
away from your demo. Thought that we were open minded about searching for
improved diving as well as instructional techniques.  Based on the
remarkable record of the DIR folks in North Florida alone, I think it would
have at least been worth a "look-see."  In addition, I know that the NAUI
Tech branch looks favorably on DIR.  If you're doing it right, what is there
to be afraid of?
Gary Hagland
NAUI #7778L
Okinawa, Japan

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Voss [mailto:webmaster@mb*.to*]
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 2:09 PM
To: Chris Ward
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Oz Tek (Thought I popped this off to the list days ago)


Mr. Ward,

I was the person responsible for organizing that demo in Monterey, and
I'd like to apologize for the way things were (or weren't) handled.
Essentially that event evolved rather quickly with very little wind up
time to prepare or brief the shop staff (who answered all the phone
calls and emails). It simply came to pass that Mr. Kane made a very
generous offer to present a demo on DIR in Monterey and I was interested
in taking advantage as soon as possible. NO ONE was excluded from the
activities for any reason; in fact the only individuals at the beach
attempting to exclude people were PADI/SSI/NAUI instructors keeping
their students away. Anyone would have been welcome, even if your
initials were MJB. Everyone presenting was very patient and all
questions were answered clearly, factually, and appropriately.  I am not
entirely certain who told you about the "blackballing" of individuals
working for other shops, but I can assure you that he or she was
incorrect. If you wish to discuss this further, please feel free to
contact me privately and I'll cheerfully dispel any other untruths you
may have heard about the demo.

Additionally, if you wish to attend the second demo (8/19 and 8/20), I'd
be glad to see you, and quite happy to book you a spot on the boat.  And
that goes double for anyone else who'd be willing to open their minds to
a new idea. Going to a DIR demo doesn't mean that you're admitting
you're wrong or that someone else is right- it simply means that you're
willing to learn. And what's wrong with that?

Andy

Chris Ward wrote:
<intro snipped>
>
> BTW, my only "incident" with DIR to date:
>
> Monterey DIR demo.  Was going to attend, got into fracas with DIR
> evangelists on rec.scuba and basically decided not to go....Scott(DIR),
> emailed me and said "don't listen to them, come to the demo and check it
> out, we'd love to have you".  This was 2 weeks before the demo, I called
and
> left 3 voice messages and 2 emails to the shop hosting the event trying to
> get a slot and get on the boat.  Never received a word back.  Scott
> announced about 2-3 days prior to demo that there were spots still
available
> on boat, I called and left 2 more messages and emailed 3 times......no
> response.  I later found out(according to another person who wanted to
go),
> that personnel from competitive dive shops were blackballed.  None were
> allowed to attend, at least certain ones.  This doesn't sound any
different
> from your OzTek fiasco, other than it was inter-shop instead of
> inter-agency.  Regardless, I, as an individual diver, interested in seeing
> your demo was not allowed to hop on your boat, because I work for a
> competitive shop.  I couldn't make it Saturday, because I had to work.

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Andrew A. Voss
Webmaster
Monterey Bay Dive Center
http://www.mbdc.to
831.656.0454
225 Cannery Row
Monterey, Ca. 93940
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