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On the other hand, diving progression could be compared to obtaining a private pilot's certification. You learn the basics in a single engine prop job. Then you solo. Then you go for your instrument qualification. Then you upgrade to multi-engine, etc. The question is where should diving be positioned in relation to complexity level between driving and flying? Gary -----Original Message----- From: Michael Brown [mailto:mbrown@le*.co*] Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2000 4:30 AM To: 'David Applin'; 'techdiver@aquanaut.com' Subject: RE: Define Tech Diving Hey Dave! You know what, I think the first mistake people make is trying to take a hostile activity like functioning UNDER WATER for longer than you can hold your breath; then divide it into beginner/advanced/professional/technical/cave/night/blah blah blah! The fact that commercial agencies like PADI, IANTD, TDI/SDI think in a linear fashion is ridiculous! Think about it like this. In order to get your drivers license, you first go to the DMV. They make you purchase the most expensive vehicle you can afford. Then, the instructor tells you that he is going to teach you to start the car, use the gas pedal, use the blinkers, brakes and trunk lid. BUT, He will not teach you to steer until you get your ADVANCED license!. Oh yeah, I will not teach you to drive on 4 lane roads until you get your Lane-Mix license. Parallel Parking? Forget it! That's only for those crazy PP Drivers! No one in their right mind would do that kind of driving. Seat Belts? Don't need them, not with a car like that! Diving does not have a linear progression to learning. There is not a formal start and stop to the process. Therefore I do not think the continued sub-categories of diving should be condoned. Diving is a potentially fatal activity. Like all activities of this nature; you should learn as much as possible and not constrain yourself to a specific category. Whaddya think? -mb PADI - The ultimate Multi-Level Marketing Organization *REMEMBER! Tell all your friends about us! :-) -----Original Message----- From: David Applin [mailto:David.Applin@ta*.co*] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 9:06 AM To: Trey; TechDiver List Subject: Define Tech Diving I've been lurking for some time now, and occasionally get great info from this list and Quest and the GUE web site. there are obviousley some very experienced divers who are willing to share info. Theres also some very inexperienced divers trying to imitate Trey and a few others! But look, out of the 3000 odd posts in my inbox 90% of them are just people slaging each other off! Now this is the Techdiver list -- yes! Would it be an good idea to define what tech diving is? Actually define where, in the opinion of the most experienced, the cut off between recreational diving and tech diving lays? I'm not talking DIR here, after all we all know that DIR can apply for all types of diving What do you think Trey? it would save you loads of time not having to respond to none tech diving issues Ps By the way, we should keep Dr Black on the list, the antics between him and several others on the list keep me laughing all night and are possibly some of the most talked about posts. This helps keep DIR being talked about :-) PPs Anyone know of a good GUE instructor in the UK? David -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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