Pyle, "Stupid" ( with a cap ) is the crap you tried
to feed all of us about the wonderful "advantages"
of jacking up the ppo2 on a rebreather through a
dive and especially the deco that is beyond your
wildest understanding and equivalent to Zambeck
discussing scooters.

 Now that you have heard over and over again that it
does not work that way, and now that your boy made
an ass out of himself at Wakulla on that score, you
have forgotten all of those Alice in Wonderland
pronouncements you were so fond of blessing me with
back in your dark days of ignorance about the kind
of diving we do in the WKPP. Your boy tried it and
found out it is not so easy, in fact, he could not
get to first base - reality set in.

Still to this day, your compatriots in RB land
believe that a machine which holds the ppo2 constant
at any level and has a deco computer will "get them
out of the water faster", which of course is a riot
since that is not what any of them are able to
accomplish in practice.

So between doing dives that we would use a single 80
for with a 20,000 machine and taking unnecessary
risk, and doing decompressions that we would not
even do, you guys have it all figured out.

Back to your dive. I may be "stupid", since I have
forgotten the learning points from that one and I
know there were one or two besides your personal
gross disregard for anyone and everyone else on the
dive trip as you went off doing your "own thing" and
making everyone else suffer the consequences as they
had to deal with your self inflicted  injuries on a
liveaboard and ruining everyone else's trip , but,
baring that, there was something interesting about
the exertion part. Maybe you could make yourself
useful other than to the TDI crowd as a David
against me and  discuss that and maybe help some of
the other endomorphs out there so that they do not
suffer the same fate on their next weenie dive.

Tell us again, you dove to 90 feet for 45 minutes on
the equivalent of 40% nitrox, decoed your sagging
little titties off, and then got paralyzed and had
to be hauled out of the water like a manatee?  Or
was it 40 feet for 90 minutes, or what? The only
thing we learn from this is to go get a membership
in the gym and start using the mouth tape.  Maybe
you could discuss the best make of wheelchair or
incontinence products while you are at it...

Every time I go by the "A-45 " beacon in Wakulla JJ
and I laugh about how pissed off we would be if it
took our setup divers 90 days to put our scooters in
where your boy made his final stand - the third
drop. 90 DAYS TO DO A SETUP DIVE. That's
"technology" at work. What do we learn from that?
See Rule Number One.

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.or*>
To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>; TechDiver List
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 8:41 PM
Subject: RE: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR


>
>Oh, so you *are* really that stupid.
>
>Rich
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Trey [mailto:trey@ne*.co*]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 2:51 PM
>> To: Richard Pyle; TechDiver List
>> Subject: Re: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR
>>
>>
>> Richie, put out the dive your way and let's talk
>> about it, or you talk about it and I will stay
out
>> of it.  Personally, I think it is pathetic.
>>
>>  You blunder around with bullshit at me and then
>> forget all about in conveniently, like the
>> rebreather ppo2 thing and the deco silliness when
>> you find out better later on in your young life.
>>
>>  I can go back and retrieve the silliness out of
you
>> if you need to see it about how Stone and the Cis
>> had an advantage over me at Wakulla . You found
out
>> better - everybody did.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.or*>
>> To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>; TechDiver List
>> <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 8:18 PM
>> Subject: RE: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR
>>
>>
>> >
>> >Are you just trolling, or are you really *that*
>> stupid?
>> >
>> >Rich
>> >
>> >> I know ( about the weenie dives ), that is why
I
>> >> avoid them and only go for the real deal. I
did
>> not
>> >> want to lie about you , Richie, as the truth
is
>> so
>> >> much better than anything I could ever make
up.
>> Come
>> >> on , think about it, you were supped to be
diving
>> >> the 12" dick of rebreathers that was holding a
>> >> constant 1.4 ppo2, and you go paralyzed on a
dive
>> >> that I would do no deco for in that situation
>>  1.4
>> >> constant). At the time you were telling me how
I
>> >> cloud save so much deco on the Cis Lunar over
my
>> >> machine. Funny now, but when your boy Stone
got
>> to
>> >> test that theory at Wakulla, his jello crash
test
>> >> dummies did four times my deco for on third
the
>> dive
>> >> and still got bent  - A real hoot.
>> >>
>> >> I do believe and you proved that one can get a
>> >> severe whack on shallow dives and any yo yo
>> profile
>> >> with enough gas in the body, and you were
diving
>> for
>> >> several days, Richard, like a bad boy.
>> >>
>> >> If you keep it up there may be a place for you
in
>> >> the Special Olympics. Be careful.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.or*>
>> >> >I don't expect you to remember anything.  I
just
>> >> expect you to refrain from
>> >> >lying about me.  Also, as I would have
assumed
>> that
>> >> you already knew (but
>> >> >maybe not) -- it's the "weenie" dives that
get
>> you.
>> >> That was the main
>> >> >reason I posted the details of that incident.
>> >> >
>> >> >Rich
>> >> >
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> From: Trey [mailto:trey@ne*.co*]
>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 4:29 AM
>> >> >> To: Richard Pyle; TechDiver List
>> >> >> Subject: Re: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Rich, a weenie dive is a weenie dive -
don't
>> >> expect me
>> >> >> to remember all the details every time you
get
>> >> bent -
>> >> >> I don't consider any of your dives to
require
>> >> more
>> >> >> than a safety stop and a vivid imagination.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Actually, the reference to your dives was
not
>> >> >> dependent on the details,but only the fact
>> that
>> >> you
>> >> >> reported it. I was being accused of being
an
>> >> idiot for
>> >> >> getting skin bends,while you were being
>> praised
>> >> for
>> >> >> reporting your bends cases in the same
post.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> From: Richard Pyle
<deepreef@bi*.or*>
>> >> >> To: TechDiver List <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>> >> >> Date: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 7:15 AM
>> >> >> Subject: Re: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Slow down, there, Chief.  You should
consider
>> >> >> yourself pretty lucky that I
>> >> >> >don't step in every time you lie about
other
>> >> people,
>> >> >> or else our usual
>> >> >> >"game" would dominate the traffic on the
>> list.
>> >> But
>> >> >> when you lie about me
>> >> >> >(=everytime you mention my name on the
list),
>> >> you
>> >> >> know that I can't let it
>> >> >> >go.  I have no recollection of ever
getting
>> >> bends
>> >> >> symptoms after any
>> >> >> >45-minute
>> >> >> >dive to 90 feet.  Maybe you're confusing
it
>> with
>> >> the
>> >> >> time I got bends
>> >> >> >symptoms
>> >> >> >after a dive where I spent twice that much
>> time
>> >> at
>> >> >> depths 10-40 feet deeper?
>> >> >> >That
>> >> >> >was a decompression dive, and I had to
>> discard
>> >> >> two-thirds of the required
>> >> >> >deco due
>> >> >> >to unexpectedly unfriendly "natives".
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Now, be a big boy, stick your tail between
>> your
>> >> legs,
>> >> >> and leave me out of
>> >> >> >it.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Rich
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Jeff, you see we are considered to
have
>> an
>> >> unfair
>> >> >> advantage since we try
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> > do what it takes, not take what comes.
>> >> Richie is
>> >> >> easy for them to
>> >> >> >identify
>> >> >> >> > with - he is telling them their worst
>> inner
>> >> >> fears - they want to hear
>> >> >> >it,
>> >> >> >> > not that it is bullshit and we DIR.
Pyle
>> got
>> >> >> paralized on a 45 minute
>> >> >> >1.4
>> >> >> >> > ppo2 dive at 90 feet - a no deco dive.
>> That
>> >> is
>> >> >> the kind of shit they
>> >> >> >love
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> > eat with a spoon.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > From: Jeff Bentley
<jeff@be*.co*>
>> >> >> >> > To: Michael J. Black
>> <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>
>> >> >> >> > Cc: Aquanaut Mail
>> <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>> >> >> >> > Date: Friday, June 30, 2000 8:53 PM
>> >> >> >> > Subject: Re: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > >Let's see.. which example should I
>> follow?
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >A) The DIR example where skin bends
can
>> be
>> >> >> viewed as part
>> >> >> >> > >   of the "learning your individual
deco
>> >> limits"
>> >> >> process
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >or
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >B) The Rich Pyle example where you
dive
>> >> deep,
>> >> >> get paralyzed,
>> >> >> >> > >   and tell everyone about your
screwup
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >hmmm....
>> >> >> >> > >Jeff
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >"Michael J. Black" wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> Someone's missing the point.  When
DCS
>> >> happens
>> >> >> to DIR divers like
>> >> >> >> > >> Trey and his minions, it blows DIR
>> Myth 1
>> >> out
>> >> >> of the water (DIR has
>> >> >> >> > >> had NO fatalaties or accidents).
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> When you DIR loudmouths preach that
>> >> you've
>> >> >> never been hurt (as
>> >> >> >> > >> Volker once said, "not even had the
>> >> slightest
>> >> >> twinge") I suspect
>> >> >> >> > >> you are FOS, and your DCS
(slobitis)
>> >> >> confessions merely prove it.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> I believe Richie Pyle did us all a
>> great
>> >> >> service by posting his
>> >> >> >> > >> bout with severe DCS.  You DIR guys
>> keep
>> >> >> pounding your chests about
>> >> >> >> > >> how infallible you are, and then
>> suddenly
>> >> the
>> >> >> truth reveals itself,
>> >> >> >> > >> and you have a knipshin when MJB
>> points
>> >> out
>> >> >> your hypocrisy.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> And in true DIR style, you point
the
>> >> finger
>> >> >> and accuse someone
>> >> >> >> > >> else (me) of being a hypocrite.
>> Sorry,
>> >> but I
>> >> >> don't follow your
>> >> >> >> > >> logic, or lack of.  Got any more
>> >> skeletons in
>> >> >> your closet?
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> MJB
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>
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