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Case and point, you moron. -----Original Message----- From: gzambeck1 <gzambeck1@me*.ne*> To: Sean T. Stevenson <ststev@un*.co*> Cc: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>; Robert Silvers <rsilvers@ph*.co*>; techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Date: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 8:17 PM Subject: Re: scooter facts vs idiocy was Re: Anyone use AquaZepp Scooters? >Sean you will find vent plugs on the predator scooters. So tell it to them. > >Greg Z. > >"Sean T. Stevenson" wrote: > >> Greg, that comment about the vent plug is too funny - conclusive proof >> that you have no clue about u/w equipment engineering. I'd quit while >> you're ahead - MJB hates competition. >> >> -Sean >> >> On Sun, 9 Jul 2000 07:53:58 -0400, Trey wrote: >> >> >Greg, you are so fucking stupid it is embarrassing. >> >You have no earthly idea what you are talking about in >> >any of this. >> > >> >The motors in my scooters are wound to an RPM and >> >torque.I will not tell you or anyone else how or why >> >they hold their torque or speed while getting the burn >> >time,but will say that they run at 24 volts, not 36, >> >you lying piece of shit. >> > >> >None of your other inane comments are even close to >> >true,not even about Bill Stone, and do not apply to my >> >scooters. Some may apply to the bullshit copies out >> >there,or to the bullshit that Bill Stone drew up, but >> >not to mine or to what Stone actually did. Stone had a >> >whole different set of problems that I will not ever >> >reveal, nor will I discuss why what works on a >> >Farralon or an Aqauzepp will not work with mine.With >> >idiots like you out there dispensing advice, all of my >> >secrets are safe. >> > >> >Again, you dumb asshole,when any of you come up with a >> >scooter that has my track record , I'll buy ten of >> >them. >> > >> >You have never seen one of my old ones let alone the >> >new version, and you ignore the reality of their use >> >and track record, while failing to realize that there >> >is nothing out there that can claim the same. >> > >> >You have no clue about in water designs, and you have >> >no idea here I get my information or why I know what I >> >know. You are so severely outclassed here it is >> >ridiculous. IDIOT is what you are , and you keep >> >proving it over and over. >> > >> >You are truly one seriously stupid human being-I can >> >not think of anyone I have ever run across that is as >> >dumb as you are and is not under supervision or >> >incarcerated. >> > >> >This slop below is the most ridiculous crap I have >> >ever read. You could not pass high school physics >> >class. Greg, you either are a blatant liar or an >> >imbecile - which is it? >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: gzambeck1 <gzambeck1@me*.ne*> >> >To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*> >> >Cc: Robert Silvers <rsilvers@ph*.co*>; >> >techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com> >> >Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 7:03 AM >> >Subject: Re: Anyone use AquaZepp Scooters? >> > >> > >> >>The motors are rewound for 26 volts and your running >> >36 volts through them. >> >>That was the problem at Wakulla II, They rewound the >> >motors and they stopped >> >>burning out. Predator has done the same thing with >> >their units. Some units >> >>do not have overload protection on the circuit >> >boards. This is the method >> >>that has been used in the past to increase speed. >> >> >> >>The face seal is machined close to the outer diameter >> >of the tube and >> >>bulkhead plate. >> >>This makes the unit easy to damage when the unit is >> >damaged. >> >> >> >>If anyone has any questions send me a fax number and >> >I will send you a set >> >>of prints. >> >>I will also post the ACAD. 14 drawings on a web site >> >to avoid the large >> >>message size. >> >> >> >>There are several other problems with the design. >> >>No vent plug to release the negative pressure. Units >> >are assembled in warm >> >>air and the unit is cooled during the dive. >> >> >> >>Wedge pads are need to separate the nose plate and >> >the rear motor housing. >> >> >> >>The back plate is too thin and needs reinforcement. >> >> >> >>Pressure from dives can damage the rear motor plate >> >which holds the shaft >> >>bearing. >> >>The struts crack from the force applied to the >> >propeller shaft. >> >> >> >>The reduced pipe diameter for the motor interrupts >> >the flow from the battery >> >>tube. >> >>This section need to be tapered. There are units out >> >with this change. >> >> >> >>I will include design notes with the drawings and the >> >engineering >> >>references. >> >> >> >>Greg Z. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Trey wrote: >> >> >> >>> Zambeck - this is all wrong. Quit posting it. I >> >>> can see that the term "Zambeck Stupid" is still >> >valid. >> >>> I heard you were dead, so maybe somebody else just >> >>> assumed your name and is carrying on in your place. >> >>> >> >>> There is only one scooter,only one price, and none >> >of >> >>> that is shown on the Halcyon web site. What is >> >shown >> >>> is an old version that I no longer make, a motor >> >>> option ( slow) that I no longer offer, and both the >> >>> long and short version ( which simply means the >> >body >> >>> and battery packs) are the same price. >> >>> >> >>> That price is 3500. The scooter is much different >> >than >> >>> what is shown, and due to the better design it >> >>> tolerates much more depth and goes faster, and is >> >made >> >>> with a computer program I wrote which saves enough >> >>> money that I can offer the rewound fast motor while >> >>> still lowering the overall price of the scooter by >> >250 >> >>> dollars . >> >>> >> >>> If one were to want a diffrent body and battery >> >pack >> >>> those are both 400 only, or 300 and you buy >> >whatever >> >>> batteries you want. >> >>> >> >>> These are the scooters that we use in the WKPP, and >> >>> the sale of these devices to other teams and divers >> >>> outside of the WKPP helps support the WKPP. >> >>> >> >>> Greg, go fuck with somebody else - you should have >> >>> learned your lesson with me by now - most people >> >have. >> >>> >> >>> To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*> >> >>> Cc: Robert Silvers <rsilvers@ph*.co*>; >> >>> techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com> >> >>> Date: Friday, July 07, 2000 5:45 PM >> >>> Subject: Re: Anyone use AquaZepp Scooters? >> >>> >> >>> >Rob go to: >> >>> > >> >>> >http://www.halcyon.net/catalog.shtml >> >>> > >> >>> >look up gavin scooters >> >>> > >> >>> >ITEM DESCRIPTION >> >>> >PRICE >> >>> >HAL-DPV-SBS Short Body 100 min run time 135 >> >fpm >> >>> $ 4385 >> >>> >HAL-DPV-SBC Short Body 55 min run time 200 >> >fpm >> >>> $ 4695 >> >>> >HAL-DPV-LBC Long Body 100 min run time 200 >> >fpm >> >>> $ 4885 >> >>> >HAL-DPV-STR Cradle >> >>> >$ 525 >> >>> > >> >>> >Page 9 of 12 >> >>> > >> >>> >Trey wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> >> They are not 4,000 . >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >> >>> >> From: Robert Silvers <rsilvers@ph*.co*> >> >>> >> To: techdiver@aquanaut.com >> ><techdiver@aquanaut.com> >> >>> >> Date: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 4:56 PM >> >>> >> Subject: Anyone use AquaZepp Scooters? >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >I am looking for a scooter or DPV and at this >> >>> point I am not planning on >> >>> >> >being a cave diver but you never know in a year >> >or >> >>> two. So, for open water >> >>> >> >casual/fun use, I am looking at Mako ($2000?), >> >>> AquaZepp LST-14-24 ($2400 + >> >>> >> >shipping and import duty), or Farallon mk7e >> >($3000 >> >>> list). I know this is a >> >>> >> >Gavin group, but that is over $4,000 and out of >> >my >> >>> range for a new one. Any >> >>> >> >thoughts? >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > --Rob. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >-- >> >>> >> >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to >> >>> `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> >>> >> >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to >> >>> `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> -- >> >>> >> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to >> >>> `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> >>> >> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to >> >>> `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> >>> > >> >>> >-- >> >>> >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to >> >>> `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> >>> >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to >> >>> `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> >>> > >> >> >> >>Trey wrote: >> >> >> >>> Zambeck - this is all wrong. Quit posting it. I >> >>> can see that the term "Zambeck Stupid" is still >> >valid. >> >>> I heard you were dead, so maybe somebody else just >> >>> assumed your name and is carrying on in your place. >> >>> >> >>> There is only one scooter,only one price, and none >> >of >> >>> that is shown on the Halcyon web site. What is >> >shown >> >>> is an old version that I no longer make, a motor >> >>> option ( slow) that I no longer offer, and both the >> >>> long and short version ( which simply means the >> >body >> >>> and battery packs) are the same price. >> >>> >> >>> That price is 3500. The scooter is much different >> >than >> >>> what is shown, and due to the better design it >> >>> tolerates much more depth and goes faster, and is >> >made >> >>> with a computer program I wrote which saves enough >> >>> money that I can offer the rewound fast motor while >> >>> still lowering the overall price of the scooter by >> >250 >> >>> dollars . >> >>> >> >>> If one were to want a diffrent body and battery >> >pack >> >>> those are both 400 only, or 300 and you buy >> >whatever >> >>> batteries you want. >> >>> >> >>> These are the scooters that we use in the WKPP, and >> >>> the sale of these devices to other teams and divers >> >>> outside of the WKPP helps support the WKPP. >> >>> >> >>> Greg, go fuck with somebody else - you should have >> >>> learned your lesson with me by now - most people >> >have. >> >>> >> >>> To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*> >> >>> Cc: Robert Silvers <rsilvers@ph*.co*>; >> >>> techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com> >> >>> Date: Friday, July 07, 2000 5:45 PM >> >>> Subject: Re: Anyone use AquaZepp Scooters? >> >>> >> >>> >Rob go to: >> >>> > >> >>> >http://www.halcyon.net/catalog.shtml >> >>> > >> >>> >look up gavin scooters >> >>> > >> >>> >ITEM DESCRIPTION >> >>> >PRICE >> >>> >HAL-DPV-SBS Short Body 100 min run time 135 >> >fpm >> >>> $ 4385 >> >>> >HAL-DPV-SBC Short Body 55 min run time 200 >> >fpm >> >>> $ 4695 >> >>> >HAL-DPV-LBC Long Body 100 min run time 200 >> >fpm >> >>> $ 4885 >> >>> >HAL-DPV-STR Cradle >> >>> >$ 525 >> >>> > >> >>> >Page 9 of 12 >> >>> > >> >>> >Trey wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> >> They are not 4,000 . >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >> >>> >> From: Robert Silvers <rsilvers@ph*.co*> >> >>> >> To: techdiver@aquanaut.com >> ><techdiver@aquanaut.com> >> >>> >> Date: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 4:56 PM >> >>> >> Subject: Anyone use AquaZepp Scooters? >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >I am looking for a scooter or DPV and at this >> >>> point I am not planning on >> >>> >> >being a cave diver but you never know in a year >> >or >> >>> two. So, for open water >> >>> >> >casual/fun use, I am looking at Mako ($2000?), >> >>> AquaZepp LST-14-24 ($2400 + >> >>> >> >shipping and import duty), or Farallon mk7e >> >($3000 >> >>> list). I know this is a >> >>> >> >Gavin group, but that is over $4,000 and out of >> >my >> >>> range for a new one. Any >> >>> >> >thoughts? >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > --Rob. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >-- >> >>> >> >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to >> >>> `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> >>> >> >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to >> >>> `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> -- >> >>> >> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to >> >>> `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> >>> >> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to >> >>> `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> >>> > >> >>> >-- >> >>> >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to >> >>> `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> >>> >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to >> >>> `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to >> >`techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> >>> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to >> >`techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >-- >> >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> > > >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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