Richie, put out the dive your way and let's talk
about it, or you talk about it and I will stay out
of it.  Personally, I think it is pathetic.

 You blunder around with bullshit at me and then
forget all about in conveniently, like the
rebreather ppo2 thing and the deco silliness when
you find out better later on in your young life.

 I can go back and retrieve the silliness out of you
if you need to see it about how Stone and the Cis
had an advantage over me at Wakulla . You found out
better - everybody did.

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.or*>
To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>; TechDiver List
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 8:18 PM
Subject: RE: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR


>
>Are you just trolling, or are you really *that*
stupid?
>
>Rich
>
>> I know ( about the weenie dives ), that is why I
>> avoid them and only go for the real deal. I did
not
>> want to lie about you , Richie, as the truth is
so
>> much better than anything I could ever make up.
Come
>> on , think about it, you were supped to be diving
>> the 12" dick of rebreathers that was holding a
>> constant 1.4 ppo2, and you go paralyzed on a dive
>> that I would do no deco for in that situation
 1.4
>> constant). At the time you were telling me how I
>> cloud save so much deco on the Cis Lunar over my
>> machine. Funny now, but when your boy Stone got
to
>> test that theory at Wakulla, his jello crash test
>> dummies did four times my deco for on third the
dive
>> and still got bent  - A real hoot.
>>
>> I do believe and you proved that one can get a
>> severe whack on shallow dives and any yo yo
profile
>> with enough gas in the body, and you were diving
for
>> several days, Richard, like a bad boy.
>>
>> If you keep it up there may be a place for you in
>> the Special Olympics. Be careful.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.or*>
>> >I don't expect you to remember anything.  I just
>> expect you to refrain from
>> >lying about me.  Also, as I would have assumed
that
>> you already knew (but
>> >maybe not) -- it's the "weenie" dives that get
you.
>> That was the main
>> >reason I posted the details of that incident.
>> >
>> >Rich
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Trey [mailto:trey@ne*.co*]
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 4:29 AM
>> >> To: Richard Pyle; TechDiver List
>> >> Subject: Re: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Rich, a weenie dive is a weenie dive - don't
>> expect me
>> >> to remember all the details every time you get
>> bent -
>> >> I don't consider any of your dives to require
>> more
>> >> than a safety stop and a vivid imagination.
>> >>
>> >> Actually, the reference to your dives was not
>> >> dependent on the details,but only the fact
that
>> you
>> >> reported it. I was being accused of being an
>> idiot for
>> >> getting skin bends,while you were being
praised
>> for
>> >> reporting your bends cases in the same post.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.or*>
>> >> To: TechDiver List <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>> >> Date: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 7:15 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >Slow down, there, Chief.  You should consider
>> >> yourself pretty lucky that I
>> >> >don't step in every time you lie about other
>> people,
>> >> or else our usual
>> >> >"game" would dominate the traffic on the
list.
>> But
>> >> when you lie about me
>> >> >(=everytime you mention my name on the list),
>> you
>> >> know that I can't let it
>> >> >go.  I have no recollection of ever getting
>> bends
>> >> symptoms after any
>> >> >45-minute
>> >> >dive to 90 feet.  Maybe you're confusing it
with
>> the
>> >> time I got bends
>> >> >symptoms
>> >> >after a dive where I spent twice that much
time
>> at
>> >> depths 10-40 feet deeper?
>> >> >That
>> >> >was a decompression dive, and I had to
discard
>> >> two-thirds of the required
>> >> >deco due
>> >> >to unexpectedly unfriendly "natives".
>> >> >
>> >> >Now, be a big boy, stick your tail between
your
>> legs,
>> >> and leave me out of
>> >> >it.
>> >> >
>> >> >Rich
>> >> >
>> >> >> > Jeff, you see we are considered to have
an
>> unfair
>> >> advantage since we try
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> > do what it takes, not take what comes.
>> Richie is
>> >> easy for them to
>> >> >identify
>> >> >> > with - he is telling them their worst
inner
>> >> fears - they want to hear
>> >> >it,
>> >> >> > not that it is bullshit and we DIR. Pyle
got
>> >> paralized on a 45 minute
>> >> >1.4
>> >> >> > ppo2 dive at 90 feet - a no deco dive.
That
>> is
>> >> the kind of shit they
>> >> >love
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> > eat with a spoon.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > From: Jeff Bentley <jeff@be*.co*>
>> >> >> > To: Michael J. Black
<mjblackmd@ya*.co*>
>> >> >> > Cc: Aquanaut Mail
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>> >> >> > Date: Friday, June 30, 2000 8:53 PM
>> >> >> > Subject: Re: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > >Let's see.. which example should I
follow?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >A) The DIR example where skin bends can
be
>> >> viewed as part
>> >> >> > >   of the "learning your individual deco
>> limits"
>> >> process
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >or
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >B) The Rich Pyle example where you dive
>> deep,
>> >> get paralyzed,
>> >> >> > >   and tell everyone about your screwup
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >hmmm....
>> >> >> > >Jeff
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >"Michael J. Black" wrote:
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> Someone's missing the point.  When DCS
>> happens
>> >> to DIR divers like
>> >> >> > >> Trey and his minions, it blows DIR
Myth 1
>> out
>> >> of the water (DIR has
>> >> >> > >> had NO fatalaties or accidents).
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> When you DIR loudmouths preach that
>> you've
>> >> never been hurt (as
>> >> >> > >> Volker once said, "not even had the
>> slightest
>> >> twinge") I suspect
>> >> >> > >> you are FOS, and your DCS (slobitis)
>> >> confessions merely prove it.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> I believe Richie Pyle did us all a
great
>> >> service by posting his
>> >> >> > >> bout with severe DCS.  You DIR guys
keep
>> >> pounding your chests about
>> >> >> > >> how infallible you are, and then
suddenly
>> the
>> >> truth reveals itself,
>> >> >> > >> and you have a knipshin when MJB
points
>> out
>> >> your hypocrisy.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> And in true DIR style, you point the
>> finger
>> >> and accuse someone
>> >> >> > >> else (me) of being a hypocrite.
Sorry,
>> but I
>> >> don't follow your
>> >> >> > >> logic, or lack of.  Got any more
>> skeletons in
>> >> your closet?
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> MJB
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>
>> >>
>>
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