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From: "Richard Pyle" <deepreef@bi*.or*>
To: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>, "TechDiver List" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 14:20:41 -1000

Are you just trolling, or are you really *that* stupid?

Rich

> I know ( about the weenie dives ), that is why I
> avoid them and only go for the real deal. I did not
> want to lie about you , Richie, as the truth is so
> much better than anything I could ever make up. Come
> on , think about it, you were supped to be diving
> the 12" dick of rebreathers that was holding a
> constant 1.4 ppo2, and you go paralyzed on a dive
> that I would do no deco for in that situation ( 1.4
> constant). At the time you were telling me how I
> cloud save so much deco on the Cis Lunar over my
> machine. Funny now, but when your boy Stone got to
> test that theory at Wakulla, his jello crash test
> dummies did four times my deco for on third the dive
> and still got bent  - A real hoot.
> 
> I do believe and you proved that one can get a
> severe whack on shallow dives and any yo yo profile
> with enough gas in the body, and you were diving for
> several days, Richard, like a bad boy.
> 
> If you keep it up there may be a place for you in
> the Special Olympics. Be careful.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.or*>
> >I don't expect you to remember anything.  I just
> expect you to refrain from
> >lying about me.  Also, as I would have assumed that
> you already knew (but
> >maybe not) -- it's the "weenie" dives that get you.
> That was the main
> >reason I posted the details of that incident.
> >
> >Rich
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Trey [mailto:trey@ne*.co*]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 4:29 AM
> >> To: Richard Pyle; TechDiver List
> >> Subject: Re: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR
> >>
> >>
> >> Rich, a weenie dive is a weenie dive - don't
> expect me
> >> to remember all the details every time you get
> bent -
> >> I don't consider any of your dives to require
> more
> >> than a safety stop and a vivid imagination.
> >>
> >> Actually, the reference to your dives was not
> >> dependent on the details,but only the fact that
> you
> >> reported it. I was being accused of being an
> idiot for
> >> getting skin bends,while you were being praised
> for
> >> reporting your bends cases in the same post.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.or*>
> >> To: TechDiver List <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> >> Date: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 7:15 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR
> >>
> >>
> >> >Slow down, there, Chief.  You should consider
> >> yourself pretty lucky that I
> >> >don't step in every time you lie about other
> people,
> >> or else our usual
> >> >"game" would dominate the traffic on the list.
> But
> >> when you lie about me
> >> >(=everytime you mention my name on the list),
> you
> >> know that I can't let it
> >> >go.  I have no recollection of ever getting
> bends
> >> symptoms after any
> >> >45-minute
> >> >dive to 90 feet.  Maybe you're confusing it with
> the
> >> time I got bends
> >> >symptoms
> >> >after a dive where I spent twice that much time
> at
> >> depths 10-40 feet deeper?
> >> >That
> >> >was a decompression dive, and I had to discard
> >> two-thirds of the required
> >> >deco due
> >> >to unexpectedly unfriendly "natives".
> >> >
> >> >Now, be a big boy, stick your tail between your
> legs,
> >> and leave me out of
> >> >it.
> >> >
> >> >Rich
> >> >
> >> >> > Jeff, you see we are considered to have an
> unfair
> >> advantage since we try
> >> >> to
> >> >> > do what it takes, not take what comes.
> Richie is
> >> easy for them to
> >> >identify
> >> >> > with - he is telling them their worst inner
> >> fears - they want to hear
> >> >it,
> >> >> > not that it is bullshit and we DIR. Pyle got
> >> paralized on a 45 minute
> >> >1.4
> >> >> > ppo2 dive at 90 feet - a no deco dive. That
> is
> >> the kind of shit they
> >> >love
> >> >> to
> >> >> > eat with a spoon.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > From: Jeff Bentley <jeff@be*.co*>
> >> >> > To: Michael J. Black <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>
> >> >> > Cc: Aquanaut Mail <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> >> >> > Date: Friday, June 30, 2000 8:53 PM
> >> >> > Subject: Re: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >Let's see.. which example should I follow?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >A) The DIR example where skin bends can be
> >> viewed as part
> >> >> > >   of the "learning your individual deco
> limits"
> >> process
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >or
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >B) The Rich Pyle example where you dive
> deep,
> >> get paralyzed,
> >> >> > >   and tell everyone about your screwup
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >hmmm....
> >> >> > >Jeff
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >"Michael J. Black" wrote:
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Someone's missing the point.  When DCS
> happens
> >> to DIR divers like
> >> >> > >> Trey and his minions, it blows DIR Myth 1
> out
> >> of the water (DIR has
> >> >> > >> had NO fatalaties or accidents).
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> When you DIR loudmouths preach that
> you've
> >> never been hurt (as
> >> >> > >> Volker once said, "not even had the
> slightest
> >> twinge") I suspect
> >> >> > >> you are FOS, and your DCS (slobitis)
> >> confessions merely prove it.
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> I believe Richie Pyle did us all a great
> >> service by posting his
> >> >> > >> bout with severe DCS.  You DIR guys keep
> >> pounding your chests about
> >> >> > >> how infallible you are, and then suddenly
> the
> >> truth reveals itself,
> >> >> > >> and you have a knipshin when MJB points
> out
> >> your hypocrisy.
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> And in true DIR style, you point the
> finger
> >> and accuse someone
> >> >> > >> else (me) of being a hypocrite.  Sorry,
> but I
> >> don't follow your
> >> >> > >> logic, or lack of.  Got any more
> skeletons in
> >> your closet?
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> MJB
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >>
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> >> >> Richard L. Pyle
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