I know ( about the weenie dives ), that is why I
avoid them and only go for the real deal. I did not
want to lie about you , Richie, as the truth is so
much better than anything I could ever make up. Come
on , think about it, you were supped to be diving
the 12" dick of rebreathers that was holding a
constant 1.4 ppo2, and you go paralyzed on a dive
that I would do no deco for in that situation ( 1.4
constant). At the time you were telling me how I
cloud save so much deco on the Cis Lunar over my
machine. Funny now, but when your boy Stone got to
test that theory at Wakulla, his jello crash test
dummies did four times my deco for on third the dive
and still got bent  - A real hoot.

I do believe and you proved that one can get a
severe whack on shallow dives and any yo yo profile
with enough gas in the body, and you were diving for
several days, Richard, like a bad boy.

If you keep it up there may be a place for you in
the Special Olympics. Be careful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.or*>
>I don't expect you to remember anything.  I just
expect you to refrain from
>lying about me.  Also, as I would have assumed that
you already knew (but
>maybe not) -- it's the "weenie" dives that get you.
That was the main
>reason I posted the details of that incident.
>
>Rich
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Trey [mailto:trey@ne*.co*]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 4:29 AM
>> To: Richard Pyle; TechDiver List
>> Subject: Re: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR
>>
>>
>> Rich, a weenie dive is a weenie dive - don't
expect me
>> to remember all the details every time you get
bent -
>> I don't consider any of your dives to require
more
>> than a safety stop and a vivid imagination.
>>
>> Actually, the reference to your dives was not
>> dependent on the details,but only the fact that
you
>> reported it. I was being accused of being an
idiot for
>> getting skin bends,while you were being praised
for
>> reporting your bends cases in the same post.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.or*>
>> To: TechDiver List <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 7:15 AM
>> Subject: Re: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR
>>
>>
>> >Slow down, there, Chief.  You should consider
>> yourself pretty lucky that I
>> >don't step in every time you lie about other
people,
>> or else our usual
>> >"game" would dominate the traffic on the list.
But
>> when you lie about me
>> >(=everytime you mention my name on the list),
you
>> know that I can't let it
>> >go.  I have no recollection of ever getting
bends
>> symptoms after any
>> >45-minute
>> >dive to 90 feet.  Maybe you're confusing it with
the
>> time I got bends
>> >symptoms
>> >after a dive where I spent twice that much time
at
>> depths 10-40 feet deeper?
>> >That
>> >was a decompression dive, and I had to discard
>> two-thirds of the required
>> >deco due
>> >to unexpectedly unfriendly "natives".
>> >
>> >Now, be a big boy, stick your tail between your
legs,
>> and leave me out of
>> >it.
>> >
>> >Rich
>> >
>> >> > Jeff, you see we are considered to have an
unfair
>> advantage since we try
>> >> to
>> >> > do what it takes, not take what comes.
Richie is
>> easy for them to
>> >identify
>> >> > with - he is telling them their worst inner
>> fears - they want to hear
>> >it,
>> >> > not that it is bullshit and we DIR. Pyle got
>> paralized on a 45 minute
>> >1.4
>> >> > ppo2 dive at 90 feet - a no deco dive. That
is
>> the kind of shit they
>> >love
>> >> to
>> >> > eat with a spoon.
>> >> >
>> >> > From: Jeff Bentley <jeff@be*.co*>
>> >> > To: Michael J. Black <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>
>> >> > Cc: Aquanaut Mail <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>> >> > Date: Friday, June 30, 2000 8:53 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR
>> >> >
>> >> > >Let's see.. which example should I follow?
>> >> > >
>> >> > >A) The DIR example where skin bends can be
>> viewed as part
>> >> > >   of the "learning your individual deco
limits"
>> process
>> >> > >
>> >> > >or
>> >> > >
>> >> > >B) The Rich Pyle example where you dive
deep,
>> get paralyzed,
>> >> > >   and tell everyone about your screwup
>> >> > >
>> >> > >hmmm....
>> >> > >Jeff
>> >> > >
>> >> > >"Michael J. Black" wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Someone's missing the point.  When DCS
happens
>> to DIR divers like
>> >> > >> Trey and his minions, it blows DIR Myth 1
out
>> of the water (DIR has
>> >> > >> had NO fatalaties or accidents).
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> When you DIR loudmouths preach that
you've
>> never been hurt (as
>> >> > >> Volker once said, "not even had the
slightest
>> twinge") I suspect
>> >> > >> you are FOS, and your DCS (slobitis)
>> confessions merely prove it.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> I believe Richie Pyle did us all a great
>> service by posting his
>> >> > >> bout with severe DCS.  You DIR guys keep
>> pounding your chests about
>> >> > >> how infallible you are, and then suddenly
the
>> truth reveals itself,
>> >> > >> and you have a knipshin when MJB points
out
>> your hypocrisy.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> And in true DIR style, you point the
finger
>> and accuse someone
>> >> > >> else (me) of being a hypocrite.  Sorry,
but I
>> don't follow your
>> >> > >> logic, or lack of.  Got any more
skeletons in
>> your closet?
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> MJB
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>>
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