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Here is what I don't get - JJ showed me the current version yesterday to =
discuss what the "problem" is. I see only that it is harder to clean the =
cartidges with the shrink wrap, but he says that if he does not use it, =
you guys fuck it up. Mine have no shrink wrap, and I have never broken =
any of the connections, and I open them all the time to clean the =
one-way cartridge valve inside and mine never come apart. JJ did change =
the assembly to include a short length of tube between the thru-hull =
fitting and the first one way disconnect, but that is so you won't break =
it of as easily.=20
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Simon Murray <simonm@ho*.co*.za*>
    To: Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
    Date: Monday, June 05, 2000 5:21 AM
    Subject: Re: EE p-valve
   =20
   =20
    Here is a summary of the responses that I received, on the list and =
privately.  It seems
    that there are a number of people who have had similar problems.
   =20
    EE put shrink wrap on the connection for a good reason, it is not =
designed to be removed,
    the plastic 'ears' will break off pretty soon.  If you have broken =
the 'ears', the suggested solutions included:
   =20
    - make sure that you position the tube of the balance valve against =
your leg so that it twists the connection closed.
   =20
    - glue or tape the connection together.
   =20
    EE have been extremely helpful- they picked up my original Techdiver =
post and have offered to replace the parts if I ship the valve to them.
   =20
    Simon Murray
    South Africa
   =20
   =20
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
    To: Simon Murray <simonm@ho*.co*.za*>
    Cc: Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 12:35 PM
    Subject: Re: EE p-valve
   =20
   =20
    > o-rings come with the valve. If the cartrgidge is in there, they =
fit
    > perfectly.
    >
    > Simon Murray wrote:
    > >
    > > The disconnect is made of red plastic and has two pieces that =
push
    > > together and you then twist them in order to 'lock' the =
connection.
    > > It seems that the plastic ridges that lock the two pieces =
together are
    > > not holding securely.  I will have a look this evening to see if =
it
    > > has a manufacturers logo.
    > >
    > > You can see a picture of it on this link under "Balanced P-Valve =
and
    > > Installation Tools"
    > >
    > > http://www.extreme-exposure.com/pvalve/pvalve-manual-1.shtml
    > >
    > > I had taken it off in order to rinse the whole assembly after my =
last
    > > dive, so it is possible that I didnt securely reconnect it.  =
However,
    > > a dive buddy showed me another that had broken locking ridges =
and so
    > > would not hold together.
    > >
    > > When comparing the two side by side, I noticed that the o-rings =
in the
    > > ends of the disconnects were slightly different sizes.  As far =
as I
    > > know the differently sized o-rings are as supplied by EE.
    > >
    > > Simon Murray
    > >
    > >
    > >      ----- Original Message -----
    > >      From: Trey
    > >      To: Simon Murray ; Tech Diver
    > >      Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 1:19 PM
    > >      Subject: Re: EE p-valve
    > >
    > >      if it is the disconnect that i specified, there is no way -
    > >      i have no shrink tubing on any of mine.
    > >
    > >           -----Original Message-----
    > >           From: Simon Murray <simonm@ho*.co*.za*>
    > >           To: Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
    > >           Date: Monday, May 29, 2000 7:08 AM
    > >           Subject: EE p-valve
    > >
    > >           I have been having problems with my Extreme
    > >           Exposure balanced p-valve.  The final connection
    > >           (where the discharge tube joins the round plastic
    > >           block that is glued to the drysuit) twisted and
    > >           became detached.  I removed the black plastic
    > >           shrink wrap and re-connected it, but decided not
    > >           to put wrap back on so I could inspect it before
    > >           each dive.
    > >
    > >           I now find that the connection has a tendency to
    > >           twist open, and come off, with all the nasty side
    > >           effects you would expect.  I have seen the same
    > >           problem with several other EE p-valves.  Does
    > >           anybody have a suggested solution ?
    > >
    > >           Cheers,
    > >
    > >           Simon Murray
    > >           South Africa
    > >
    >
    >
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Here is what I don't get - JJ showed =
me the=20
current version yesterday to discuss what the "problem" is. I =
see only=20
that it is harder to clean the cartidges with the shrink wrap, but he =
says that=20
if he does not use it, you guys fuck it up. Mine have no shrink wrap, =
and I have=20
never broken any of the connections, and I open them all the time to =
clean the=20
one-way cartridge valve inside and mine never come apart. JJ did change =
the=20
assembly to include a short length of tube between the thru-hull fitting =
and the=20
first one way disconnect, but that is so you won't break it of as =
easily.=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original =
Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20
    </B>Simon Murray <<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:simonm@ho*.co*.za*">simonm@horizonequity.co.za</A>=
><BR><B>To:=20
    </B>Tech Diver <<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>><BR>=
<B>Date:=20
    </B>Monday, June 05, 2000 5:21 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: EE=20
    p-valve<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Here is a summary of the =
responses that I=20
    received, on the list and privately.  It seems<BR>that there =
are a=20
    number of people who have had similar problems.<BR><BR>EE put shrink =
wrap on=20
    the connection for a good reason, it is not designed to be =
removed,<BR>the=20
    plastic 'ears' will break off pretty soon.  If you have broken =
the=20
    'ears', the suggested solutions included:<BR><BR>- make sure that =
you=20
    position the tube of the balance valve against your leg so that it =
twists=20
    the connection closed.<BR><BR>- glue or tape the connection=20
    together.<BR><BR>EE have been extremely helpful- they picked up my =
original=20
    Techdiver post and have offered to replace the parts if I ship the =
valve to=20
    them.<BR><BR>Simon Murray<BR>South
Africa<BR><BR><BR>----- Original =
Message=20
    -----<BR>From: Trey <<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:trey@ne*.co*">trey@netdor.com</A>><BR>To: Simon =
Murray=20
    <<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:simonm@ho*.co*.za*">simonm@horizonequity.co.za</A>=
><BR>Cc:=20
    Tech Diver <<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>><BR>=
Sent:=20
    Tuesday, May 30, 2000 12:35 PM<BR>Subject: Re: EE =
p-valve<BR><BR><BR>>=20
    o-rings come with the valve. If the cartrgidge is in there, they =
fit<BR>>=20
    perfectly.<BR>><BR>> Simon Murray wrote:<BR>>
><BR>> =
> The=20
    disconnect is made of red plastic and has two pieces that =
push<BR>> >=20
    together and you then twist them in order to 'lock' the =
connection.<BR>>=20
    > It seems that the plastic ridges that lock the two pieces =
together=20
    are<BR>> > not holding securely.  I will have a look this =
evening=20
    to see if it<BR>> > has a manufacturers logo.<BR>> =
><BR>>=20
    > You can see a picture of it on this link under "Balanced =
P-Valve=20
    and<BR>> > Installation Tools"<BR>> ><BR>>
> =
<A=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.extreme-exposure.com/pvalve/pvalve-manual-1.shtml">htt=
p://www.extreme-exposure.com/pvalve/pvalve-manual-1.shtml</A><BR>>=20
    ><BR>> > I had taken it off in order to rinse the whole =
assembly=20
    after my last<BR>> > dive, so it is possible that I didnt =
securely=20
    reconnect it.  However,<BR>> > a dive buddy showed me =
another=20
    that had broken locking ridges and so<BR>> > would not hold=20
    together.<BR>> ><BR>> > When comparing the two side by =
side, I=20
    noticed that the o-rings in the<BR>> > ends of the disconnects =
were=20
    slightly different sizes.  As far as I<BR>> > know the=20
    differently sized o-rings are as supplied by EE.<BR>> =
><BR>> >=20
    Simon Murray<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>=20
    >      ----- Original Message =
-----<BR>>=20
    >      From: Trey<BR>>=20
    >      To: Simon Murray ; Tech =
Diver<BR>>=20
    >      Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 1:19=20
    PM<BR>> >      Subject: Re: EE=20
    p-valve<BR>> ><BR>> >      if =
it is the=20
    disconnect that i specified, there is no way -<BR>>=20
    >      i have no shrink tubing on any of =

    mine.<BR>> ><BR>>=20
    >          =20
    -----Original Message-----<BR>>=20
    >           =
From: Simon=20
    Murray <<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:simonm@ho*.co*.za*">simonm@horizonequity.co.za</A>=
><BR>>=20
    >           To: =
Tech=20
    Diver <<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>><BR>=
>=20
    >           =
Date:=20
    Monday, May 29, 2000 7:08 AM<BR>>=20
    >           =
Subject: EE=20
    p-valve<BR>> ><BR>>=20
    >           I =
have been=20
    having problems with my Extreme<BR>>=20
    >           =
Exposure=20
    balanced p-valve.  The final connection<BR>>=20
    >           =
(where the=20
    discharge tube joins the round plastic<BR>>=20
    >           =
block that=20
    is glued to the drysuit) twisted and<BR>>=20
    >           =
became=20
    detached.  I removed the black plastic<BR>>=20
    >           =
shrink wrap=20
    and re-connected it, but decided not<BR>>=20
    >           to =
put wrap=20
    back on so I could inspect it before<BR>>=20
    >           =
each=20
    dive.<BR>> ><BR>>=20
    >           I =
now find=20
    that the connection has a tendency to<BR>>=20
    >           =
twist open,=20
    and come off, with all the nasty side<BR>>=20
    >           =
effects you=20
    would expect.  I have seen the same<BR>>=20
    >           =
problem=20
    with several other EE p-valves.  Does<BR>>=20
    >           =
anybody=20
    have a suggested solution ?<BR>> ><BR>>=20
    >          =20
    Cheers,<BR>> ><BR>>=20
    >           =
Simon=20
    Murray<BR>>=20
    >           =
South=20
    Africa<BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>> --<BR>> Send
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