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Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 21:06:55 -0400
From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: Simon Murray <simonm@ho*.co*.za*>
CC: Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: EE p-valve
The connection is supposed to be spring loaded by the cartridge inside.
For a quick disconnect that gets used as such, I told them to use the
surgical connections which will also hold a cartridge - that is like
what you see in a hospital - it wil not break. However, that one is
unnecessary - they should only be opened to clean the cartridges. Good
thing EE does not sell you guys anvils - the warranty work would kill
them.

Simon Murray wrote:
> 
> Maybe I am not being careful enough when disconnecting the assembly.
> Here is what EE told me:
> 
> >We suggest not taking the shrink wrap off and disconnecting the
> connector.
> >There is a little plastic nipple on the connector face that if used
> too
> >many times it will wear down and not hold the connection well.  The
> reason
> >for the shrink wrap is so the connector will not wear out.
> 
> 
> Simon
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
>      From: Trey
>      To: Simon Murray ; Tech Diver
>      Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 12:52 PM
>      Subject: Re: EE p-valve
> 
>      Here is what I don't get - JJ showed me the current version
>      yesterday to discuss what the "problem" is. I see only that
>      it is harder to clean the cartidges with the shrink wrap,
>      but he says that if he does not use it, you guys fuck it up.
>      Mine have no shrink wrap, and I have never broken any of the
>      connections, and I open them all the time to clean the
>      one-way cartridge valve inside and mine never come apart. JJ
>      did change the assembly to include a short length of tube
>      between the thru-hull fitting and the first one way
>      disconnect, but that is so you won't break it of as easily.
> 
>           -----Original Message-----
>           From: Simon Murray <simonm@ho*.co*.za*>
>           To: Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>           Date: Monday, June 05, 2000 5:21 AM
>           Subject: Re: EE p-valve
> 
>           Here is a summary of the responses that I
>           received, on the list and privately.  It seems
>           that there are a number of people who have had
>           similar problems.
> 
>           EE put shrink wrap on the connection for a good
>           reason, it is not designed to be removed,
>           the plastic 'ears' will break off pretty soon.  If
>           you have broken the 'ears', the suggested
>           solutions included:
> 
>           - make sure that you position the tube of the
>           balance valve against your leg so that it twists
>           the connection closed.
> 
>           - glue or tape the connection together.
> 
>           EE have been extremely helpful- they picked up my
>           original Techdiver post and have offered to
>           replace the parts if I ship the valve to them.
> 
>           Simon Murray
>           South Africa
> 
>           ----- Original Message -----
>           From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
>           To: Simon Murray <simonm@ho*.co*.za*>
>           Cc: Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>           Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 12:35 PM
>           Subject: Re: EE p-valve
> 
>           > o-rings come with the valve. If the cartrgidge
>           is in there, they fit
>           > perfectly.
>           >
>           > Simon Murray wrote:
>           > >
>           > > The disconnect is made of red plastic and has
>           two pieces that push
>           > > together and you then twist them in order to
>           'lock' the connection.
>           > > It seems that the plastic ridges that lock the
>           two pieces together are
>           > > not holding securely.  I will have a look this
>           evening to see if it
>           > > has a manufacturers logo.
>           > >
>           > > You can see a picture of it on this link under
>           "Balanced P-Valve and
>           > > Installation Tools"
>           > >
>           > >
>           http://www.extreme-exposure.com/pvalve/pvalve-manual-1.shtml
>           > >
>           > > I had taken it off in order to rinse the whole
>           assembly after my last
>           > > dive, so it is possible that I didnt securely
>           reconnect it.  However,
>           > > a dive buddy showed me another that had broken
>           locking ridges and so
>           > > would not hold together.
>           > >
>           > > When comparing the two side by side, I noticed
>           that the o-rings in the
>           > > ends of the disconnects were slightly
>           different sizes.  As far as I
>           > > know the differently sized o-rings are as
>           supplied by EE.
>           > >
>           > > Simon Murray
>           > >
>           > >
>           > >      ----- Original Message -----
>           > >      From: Trey
>           > >      To: Simon Murray ; Tech Diver
>           > >      Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 1:19 PM
>           > >      Subject: Re: EE p-valve
>           > >
>           > >      if it is the disconnect that i specified,
>           there is no way -
>           > >      i have no shrink tubing on any of mine.
>           > >
>           > >           -----Original Message-----
>           > >           From: Simon Murray
>           <simonm@ho*.co*.za*>
>           > >           To: Tech Diver
>           <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>           > >           Date: Monday, May 29, 2000 7:08 AM
>           > >           Subject: EE p-valve
>           > >
>           > >           I have been having problems with my
>           Extreme
>           > >           Exposure balanced p-valve.  The
>           final connection
>           > >           (where the discharge tube joins the
>           round plastic
>           > >           block that is glued to the drysuit)
>           twisted and
>           > >           became detached.  I removed the
>           black plastic
>           > >           shrink wrap and re-connected it, but
>           decided not
>           > >           to put wrap back on so I could
>           inspect it before
>           > >           each dive.
>           > >
>           > >           I now find that the connection has a
>           tendency to
>           > >           twist open, and come off, with all
>           the nasty side
>           > >           effects you would expect.  I have
>           seen the same
>           > >           problem with several other EE
>           p-valves.  Does
>           > >           anybody have a suggested solution ?
>           > >
>           > >           Cheers,
>           > >
>           > >           Simon Murray
>           > >           South Africa
>           > >
>           >
>           >
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