This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0173_01BFCEF6.1AD66C80 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Maybe I am not being careful enough when disconnecting the assembly. = Here is what EE told me: >We suggest not taking the shrink wrap off and disconnecting the = connector. >There is a little plastic nipple on the connector face that if used too = >many times it will wear down and not hold the connection well. The = reason=20 >for the shrink wrap is so the connector will not wear out. Simon =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Trey=20 To: Simon Murray ; Tech Diver=20 Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 12:52 PM Subject: Re: EE p-valve Here is what I don't get - JJ showed me the current version yesterday = to discuss what the "problem" is. I see only that it is harder to clean = the cartidges with the shrink wrap, but he says that if he does not use = it, you guys fuck it up. Mine have no shrink wrap, and I have never = broken any of the connections, and I open them all the time to clean the = one-way cartridge valve inside and mine never come apart. JJ did change = the assembly to include a short length of tube between the thru-hull = fitting and the first one way disconnect, but that is so you won't break = it of as easily.=20 -----Original Message----- From: Simon Murray <simonm@ho*.co*.za*> To: Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Date: Monday, June 05, 2000 5:21 AM Subject: Re: EE p-valve Here is a summary of the responses that I received, on the list and = privately. It seems that there are a number of people who have had similar problems. EE put shrink wrap on the connection for a good reason, it is not = designed to be removed, the plastic 'ears' will break off pretty soon. If you have broken = the 'ears', the suggested solutions included: - make sure that you position the tube of the balance valve against = your leg so that it twists the connection closed. - glue or tape the connection together. EE have been extremely helpful- they picked up my original Techdiver = post and have offered to replace the parts if I ship the valve to them. Simon Murray South Africa ----- Original Message ----- From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*> To: Simon Murray <simonm@ho*.co*.za*> Cc: Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 12:35 PM Subject: Re: EE p-valve > o-rings come with the valve. If the cartrgidge is in there, they = fit > perfectly. > > Simon Murray wrote: > > > > The disconnect is made of red plastic and has two pieces that = push > > together and you then twist them in order to 'lock' the = connection. > > It seems that the plastic ridges that lock the two pieces = together are > > not holding securely. I will have a look this evening to see if = it > > has a manufacturers logo. > > > > You can see a picture of it on this link under "Balanced P-Valve = and > > Installation Tools" > > > > http://www.extreme-exposure.com/pvalve/pvalve-manual-1.shtml > > > > I had taken it off in order to rinse the whole assembly after my = last > > dive, so it is possible that I didnt securely reconnect it. = However, > > a dive buddy showed me another that had broken locking ridges = and so > > would not hold together. > > > > When comparing the two side by side, I noticed that the o-rings = in the > > ends of the disconnects were slightly different sizes. As far = as I > > know the differently sized o-rings are as supplied by EE. > > > > Simon Murray > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Trey > > To: Simon Murray ; Tech Diver > > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 1:19 PM > > Subject: Re: EE p-valve > > > > if it is the disconnect that i specified, there is no way - > > i have no shrink tubing on any of mine. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Simon Murray <simonm@ho*.co*.za*> > > To: Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > > Date: Monday, May 29, 2000 7:08 AM > > Subject: EE p-valve > > > > I have been having problems with my Extreme > > Exposure balanced p-valve. The final connection > > (where the discharge tube joins the round plastic > > block that is glued to the drysuit) twisted and > > became detached. I removed the black plastic > > shrink wrap and re-connected it, but decided not > > to put wrap back on so I could inspect it before > > each dive. > > > > I now find that the connection has a tendency to > > twist open, and come off, with all the nasty side > > effects you would expect. I have seen the same > > problem with several other EE p-valves. Does > > anybody have a suggested solution ? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Simon Murray > > South Africa > > > > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to = `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to = `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. ------=_NextPart_000_0173_01BFCEF6.1AD66C80 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 = Transitional//EN"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2014.210" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Maybe I am not being careful enough = when=20 disconnecting the assembly. Here is what EE told me:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">>We suggest not taking the shrink = wrap off=20 and disconnecting the connector.</DIV></FONT> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">>There is a little plastic nipple = on the=20 connector face that if used too <BR>>many times it will wear down and = not=20 hold the connection well. The reason <BR>>for the shrink wrap = is so the=20 connector will not wear out.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Simon = </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:trey@ne*.co*" title=3Dtrey@ne*.co*>Trey</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:simonm@ho*.co*.za*"=20 title=3Dsimonm@ho*.co*.za*>Simon Murray</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com" = title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com>Tech=20 Diver</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 05, 2000 = 12:52=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: EE p-valve</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Here is what I don't get - JJ = showed me the=20 current version yesterday to discuss what the "problem" is. I see only = that it=20 is harder to clean the cartidges with the shrink wrap, but he says = that if he=20 does not use it, you guys fuck it up. Mine have no shrink wrap, and I = have=20 never broken any of the connections, and I open them all the time to = clean the=20 one-way cartridge valve inside and mine never come apart. JJ did = change the=20 assembly to include a short length of tube between the thru-hull = fitting and=20 the first one way disconnect, but that is so you won't break it of as = easily.=20 </FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original = Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20 </B>Simon Murray <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:simonm@ho*.co*.za*">simonm@horizonequity.co.za</A>= ><BR><B>To:=20 </B>Tech Diver <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>><BR>= <B>Date:=20 </B>Monday, June 05, 2000 5:21 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: EE=20 p-valve<BR><BR></DIV></FONT> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Here is a summary of the = responses that I=20 received, on the list and privately. It seems<BR>that there = are a=20 number of people who have had similar problems.<BR><BR>EE put shrink = wrap on=20 the connection for a good reason, it is not designed to be = removed,<BR>the=20 plastic 'ears' will break off pretty soon. If you have broken = the=20 'ears', the suggested solutions included:<BR><BR>- make sure that = you=20 position the tube of the balance valve against your leg so that it = twists=20 the connection closed.<BR><BR>- glue or tape the connection=20 together.<BR><BR>EE have been extremely helpful- they picked up my = original=20 Techdiver post and have offered to replace the parts if I ship the = valve to=20 them.<BR><BR>Simon Murray<BR>South Africa<BR><BR><BR>----- Original = Message=20 -----<BR>From: Trey <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:trey@ne*.co*">trey@netdor.com</A>><BR>To: Simon = Murray=20 <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:simonm@ho*.co*.za*">simonm@horizonequity.co.za</A>= ><BR>Cc:=20 Tech Diver <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>><BR>= Sent:=20 Tuesday, May 30, 2000 12:35 PM<BR>Subject: Re: EE = p-valve<BR><BR><BR>>=20 o-rings come with the valve. If the cartrgidge is in there, they = fit<BR>>=20 perfectly.<BR>><BR>> Simon Murray wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> = > The=20 disconnect is made of red plastic and has two pieces that = push<BR>> >=20 together and you then twist them in order to 'lock' the = connection.<BR>>=20 > It seems that the plastic ridges that lock the two pieces = together=20 are<BR>> > not holding securely. I will have a look this = evening=20 to see if it<BR>> > has a manufacturers logo.<BR>> = ><BR>>=20 > You can see a picture of it on this link under "Balanced = P-Valve=20 and<BR>> > Installation Tools"<BR>> ><BR>> > <A=20 = href=3D"http://www.extreme-exposure.com/pvalve/pvalve-manual-1.shtml">htt= p://www.extreme-exposure.com/pvalve/pvalve-manual-1.shtml</A><BR>>=20 ><BR>> > I had taken it off in order to rinse the whole = assembly=20 after my last<BR>> > dive, so it is possible that I didnt = securely=20 reconnect it. However,<BR>> > a dive buddy showed me = another=20 that had broken locking ridges and so<BR>> > would not hold=20 together.<BR>> ><BR>> > When comparing the two side by = side, I=20 noticed that the o-rings in the<BR>> > ends of the disconnects = were=20 slightly different sizes. As far as I<BR>> > know the=20 differently sized o-rings are as supplied by EE.<BR>> = ><BR>> >=20 Simon Murray<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>=20 > ----- Original Message = -----<BR>>=20 > From: Trey<BR>>=20 > To: Simon Murray ; Tech = Diver<BR>>=20 > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 1:19=20 PM<BR>> > Subject: Re: EE=20 p-valve<BR>> ><BR>> > if = it is the=20 disconnect that i specified, there is no way -<BR>>=20 > i have no shrink tubing on any of = mine.<BR>> ><BR>>=20 > =20 -----Original Message-----<BR>>=20 > = From: Simon=20 Murray <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:simonm@ho*.co*.za*">simonm@horizonequity.co.za</A>= ><BR>>=20 > To: = Tech=20 Diver <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>><BR>= >=20 > = Date:=20 Monday, May 29, 2000 7:08 AM<BR>>=20 > = Subject: EE=20 p-valve<BR>> ><BR>>=20 > I = have been=20 having problems with my Extreme<BR>>=20 > = Exposure=20 balanced p-valve. The final connection<BR>>=20 > = (where the=20 discharge tube joins the round plastic<BR>>=20 > = block that=20 is glued to the drysuit) twisted and<BR>>=20 > = became=20 detached. I removed the black plastic<BR>>=20 > = shrink wrap=20 and re-connected it, but decided not<BR>>=20 > to = put wrap=20 back on so I could inspect it before<BR>>=20 > = each=20 dive.<BR>> ><BR>>=20 > I = now find=20 that the connection has a tendency to<BR>>=20 > = twist open,=20 and come off, with all the nasty side<BR>>=20 > = effects you=20 would expect. I have seen the same<BR>>=20 > = problem=20 with several other EE p-valves. Does<BR>>=20 > = anybody=20 have a suggested solution ?<BR>> ><BR>>=20 > =20 Cheers,<BR>> ><BR>>=20 > = Simon=20 Murray<BR>>=20 > = South=20 Africa<BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>> --<BR>> Send mail for = the=20 `techdiver' mailing list to `<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com'">techdiver@aquanaut.com'</A>.<BR>&= gt;=20 Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'">techdiver-request@aquanau= t.com'</A>.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></ HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0173_01BFCEF6.1AD66C80-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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