Manos, several of the pics should be removed - they are on the GUE site,
not WKPP. Tell Anthony when you see things like this - he will remove
them.


Manos Manoli wrote:
> 
> Harris ,
> 
> Although your initial comment about the steels and wet suit i found it
> to be so correct i disagree
> with your line  " I overlooked this, most logical, point and was
> considering things from an open ocean standpoint. "
> 
> Come on guys doesn't WKPP have equipment check for their support
> divers ? I need someone to stand on
> his feed and say " YES it was wrong this guy shouldn't be diving with
> this setup " do we change our standards
> depending on how someone can resist cold or by his abilities to chimp
> a cave ? My personal humble  opinion
> is that this pic should be removed.
> 
> It was not long before i was called stroke for diving with my 15 liter
> steels and wet suit.
> It all make sense to me then when George explained thats why i spend
> $$$$ on Tls 350.
> 
> It is not long ago when i got this from wkpp..
> 
> If you are diving a wet suit, you should be diving aluminum tanks;
> never
> steel. These you could comfortably swim to the surface in the event of
> a wing
> failure.  If you must dive steel the only way to ensure your safety is
> by
> buying a dry suit.
> 
> I should now by an anti-flame suit ....
> 
> Manos.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Case E. Harris" wrote:
> 
>      Okay, after all the replies I've received, (some with a not
>      so friendly tone...but I'm used to that!) allow me to
>      summarize and clarify. I realize the guy must not need the
>      extra warmth of a drysuit under the conditions (shallow,
>      cavern only, etc...) I was curious about the wetsuit with
>      steels more from a buoyancy standpoint.  Given a BC failure,
>      the tanks make things awful negative without the extra
>      buoyancy of a drysuit...especially at depth. Trey pointed
>      out (and only him... all my other flames have been how the
>      guy can stand the cold....) that one can crawl out of a
>      cave, and the drysuit as backup buoyancy is less important
>      there than in the ocean.  Having never been in a cave
>      before, I overlooked this, most logical, point and was
>      considering things from an open ocean standpoint. So...the
>      subject line of my email, "photo CURIOSITIES," (not "photo
>      CRITICISIMS") was quite accurate, and now my curiosities are
>      satisfied.... It apparantly is okay to dive wet in steels as
>      long as you can crawl out, and you're not getting cold.  I
>      agree... works for me... (Uh-oh... I'm rhyming... better lay
>      off the coffee this morning!) I've attached some (names
>      removed to protect the innocent) of the quotes I've
>      received... the last one will be dealt with swiftly! Case
>      Harris
>      diveman@cy*.co* someone wrote:I was there observing
>      that weekend. True, he did wear a wetsuit, but
>      he was also diving at a max depth of 50 feet while in a
>      cavern and
>      never went into the cave. someone else wrote:I bet you a
>      Pepsi it won't be long till he is in
>      a DS.  You can get away wet for support dives but
>      once the deco starts, you best be dry or freeze
>      your ass off!  70-72 degree water gets colder and
>      colder as you push the clock.
> 
>      someone different wrote:Anyway that was Mike Kane, I'm
>      surprised he was even wearing a wetsuit and
>      not just shorts and a t-shirt. From what I've seen of Mike,
>      he has
>      antifreeze instead of blood.
> 
>      yet another person wrote:Yeah, but that's MHK. Throw it all
>      out the window when dealing with Mike.He dives up here in 42
>      degree water in a wetsuit, with no hood.The guy is some kind
>      of lizard. and the rudest of all wrote:you dumbass... you
>      don't need a drysuit in florida. If you had a fucking clue
>      about any of the diving we do downhere, you'd know the water
>      is 70 plus degrees all the time, and a shorty is about all
>      that's needed.
> 
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