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To: techdiver@opal.com
Subject: Re: Warm water divers and fresszing regs
From: MATHESON_SCOTT@ta*.co*
Date: 9 Feb 95 02:39:00 -0800
>I don't mean to flame, but what do people think about this? I've always
>been taught and firmly believe that if someone gives an ABORT sign,
>then the dive is over. No questions or delays. At least when in a buddy
>situations where some other arrangement hasn't been specified. Telling
>Jeff to stay when his mental/physical state is unknown could increase
>his stress and put both him and you at more risk. This seems to go
>against the whole purpose of a buddy. It seems to me that if you aren't
>willing to accept an aborted dive for any reason then you should either
>dive solo or make this fact very clear before the dive and let your
>buddy decide whether that is acceptable to him/her.


Thanks for your comments, I do look back at the dive and think I we had
went up on the first single would the hole problem been prevented, but I
would think that many of us have had to take a few seconds to get our
self or our buddy sorted out before you move off

How would Jeff have felt for the rest of the day if we had canned the
dive at that point ?

I have talked this over with Jeff and we both now fell that we should
have canned the dive, Jeff should have given me a second NO then a
second UP and I would have stop there

I think it's important that it is just as important that if you fell
unsure of your self then you should not have any problems id sticking to
you point of view

the other point is if we have canned the dive Jeff could have had a
problem some time later and might not have been so luck

Jeff has now given up diving

I put this out in this form hopping that some one some day might be able
to prevent a problem form my experience


Regards Scott



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SENT 02-09-95 FROM SMTPGATE (devon@ol*.ch*)

> As I turned to face Jeff I found him facing me with bubbles flooding
> out of his mask, he was having some sort of problem, this first thing
> Jeff did was to signal UP, I through Jeff was just having problems
> clearing his mask, I singled Wait, to try and calm him down, I did not
> want to spoil my day out due to Jeff having a mask problem

I don't mean to flame, but what do people think about this? I've always
been taught and firmly believe that if someone gives an ABORT sign,
then the dive is over. No questions or delays. At least when in a buddy
situations where some other arrangement hasn't been specified. Telling
Jeff to stay when his mental/physical state is unknown could increase
his stress and put both him and you at more risk. This seems to go
against the whole purpose of a buddy. It seems to me that if you aren't
willing to accept an aborted dive for any reason then you should either
dive solo or make this fact very clear before the dive and let your
buddy decide whether that is acceptable to him/her.

Opinions?

> If their is a lesson to be learnt from this itis always dig into the
> history of you buddy, find out in detail the type of diving he has
> been doing

Totally agreed!

Devon

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