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Hey, I deal with tcp/ip, netbeui/netbios, ipx and I can only dream about the beautiful, simple, self-configuring days of AppleTalk, where printing meant simply clicking on a icon and there was zero client setup or hassle. So I will bet that CisLunars are running on netbeui/netbios, the most lame, fucked-up "network protocol" ever invented by mankind. Jim ------------------------------------------------------------------- Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/ > From: "Kevin Connell" <kevin@nw*.co*> > Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 09:34:33 -0700 > To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>, "Sean M.Cary" > <smcary@mi*.co*> > Cc: Techdiver Mailing List <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > Subject: Re: Cave doubles > > No, stone probably runs his systems using "AppleTalk" and wouldn't know > what "topology" meant, anyway > > hehehehehe > > At 04:44 PM 4/11/2000 -0400, Jim Cobb wrote: >> Oh, no, it's Sean Stone... >> >> Jim >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/ >> >>> From: "Sean M.Cary" <smcary@mi*.co*> >>> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:37:11 -0400 >>> To: "Kevin Connell" <kevin@nw*.co*> >>> Cc: "Techdiver Mailing List" <techdiver@aquanaut.com> >>> Subject: Re: Cave doubles >>> >>> A Hybrid Mesh would offer better redundancy then the Star topology, >>> especially with 6 tanks :-) >>> >>> Sean >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Kevin Connell" <kevin@nw*.co*> >>> To: "Jeff Disler" <pdisler@io*.ne*>; "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*>; >>> "Art Greenberg" <artg@ec*.ne*> >>> Cc: "Cam Banks" <cam@ca*.co*>; "Techdiver Mailing List" >>> <techdiver@aquanaut.com> >>> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 10:03 PM >>> Subject: Re: Cave doubles >>> >>> >>>> Jim - this is getting pretty funny. I own a set of 46's and I certainly >>>> don't have any desire to band them together because I am too much of a >>>> pussy to carry 104's or I think they are a better solution than a single >>> 80. >>>> >>>> Better than "cave doubles", how about "The Greenberg Solution" >>>> >>>> Actually, what I'm planning on doing is duct-taping 6 AL13's together in a >>>> "star" configuration for full redundancy for reef diving in the tropics. >>>> >>>> At 04:07 PM 4/10/2000 -0400, Jim Cobb wrote: >>>>> Jeff- >>>>> >>>>> As I told Maggie and Art, if you have the money go ahead and get "OMS 46 >>>>> doubles", I just think that your money is better spent on a set of 95's >>> or >>>>> 104's which would wind up costing about the same and offer much more >>>>> utility. >>>>> >>>>> Every time I get passionate arguments for gear like this, I tend to >>> suspect >>>>> it's because A) they actually own the piece of sh, er, equipment in >>> question >>>>> and don't want to look like a knucklehead on the next dive trip, or B) >>> they >>>>> are about to unload the piece of sh, er, equipment in question on the >>>>> unsuspecting masses and don't want me to ruin the market. >>>>> >>>>> In this case the bottom has fallen out of the OMS steel 46 stage market >>> due >>>>> to their close proximity to several dead divers over the years and dozens >>> of >>>>> techies and marketers are desperately trying to come up with ways to get >>> rid >>>>> of these ridiculously expensive crappy POS. And the poor suckers thought >>>>> they found salvation in the new "OMS 46 doubles" market. >>>>> >>>>> PULL! BANG! Dusted that sucker! >>>>> >>>>> But, Jeff, I will give you that if you are belly-crawling through caves >>> and >>>>> need a low-profile air source, then "OMS 46 Doubles" are ideal for that >>>>> particular, narrow, targeted, unique, singular situation... Let's call >>> them >>>>> "cave doubles." >>>>> >>>>> Best Regards- >>>>> >>>>> Jim >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/ >>>>> >>>>>> From: Jeff Disler <pdisler@io*.ne*> >>>>>> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:55:34 -0500 >>>>>> To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, Art Greenberg >>>>> <artg@ec*.ne*>, Jim >>>>>> Cobb <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*> >>>>>> Cc: Cam Banks <cam@ca*.co*>, Techdiver Mailing List >>>>>> <techdiver@aquanaut.com> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Dual OMS 45's >>>>>> >>>>>> C'mon Jim, >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't close your mind to the possibility that small doubles, (OMS >>> 46's) >>>>>> might be a better set up than a single eighty for simple dives. >>> Probably >>>>>> most (on this list anyway) are already using the same backplate and >>> wings >>>>>> they use for their large doubles, to dive an Al 80 with an single tank >>>>>> adaptor. So for those who already have these tanks ( I already use >>> them for >>>>>> sump diving because, IMO, they are the best small tank for sump >>> diving) why >>>>>> not just them for as small doubles as well. They really don't weigh >>> anymore >>>>>> than an solo 80, except for the additional first stage. They don't go >>> way >>>>>> positive when near empty. They are easy to swim up from depth without >>> the >>>>>> aid of inflation. They fit closer to the back than an aluminim 80. I >>> don't >>>>>> think they have as much drag, certainly not any more than an alum 80. >>> These >>>>>> are just a few things about the tanks I like. >>>>>> >>>>>> Things that I think we should all like, at least tolerate, or could >>> just >>>>>> get use to about the 46 doubles: >>>>>> Hell you're covered if you blow a neck O-ring, if a reg fails (first >>> or >>>>>> second), if your buddy needs a bit more gas when his system goes boom >>>>>> catastrophically or just plain ol' fails , and You simply have more >>> gas, >>>>>> which, too much of never hurts. >>>>>> >>>>>> I agree, probably most people don't need to go out and spend the bucks >>> on >>>>>> dual 46's. But I'll bet if you actually dived my dual 46's you'd >>> prefer >>>>>> them over a single eighty. If you did not like them better, I'd be >>> suprised >>>>>> and would like to hear the reasons why. >>>>>> >>>>>> I believe in using the right gear for the task at hand as well. If I >>> need >>>>>> my big doubles for the dive I'm doing, I use them. If I need side >>> mounted >>>>>> 95's for a sump dive, I use them. What ever it takes for the dive, >>> thats >>>>>> what I'll choose. I'm certain the few rec dives I do could be done >>> with an >>>>>> alum 80, but I choose to have the redundancy for all my dives. Is that >>> so >>>>>> wrong? <g> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> By they way, I've heard a lot of folks don't like these tanks because >>> they >>>>>> are to heavy. Anyone who does not like their oms 46 and wants to sell, >>> for >>>>>> a low price, let me know how much. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "SILT HAPPENS"JD JEFF DISLER >>>>>> SAFE CAVING NSS 26000 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >>>>> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------- >>>> Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> >>>> >>>> NW Labor Systems, Inc >>>> http://www.nwls.com >>>> >>>> Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate. >>>> (plurality should not be posited without >>>> necessity - Occam's razor) >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------- >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >>>> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >>> >>> -- >>> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >>> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >>> >> >> >> -- >> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > ---------------------------------- > Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> > > NW Labor Systems, Inc > http://www.nwls.com > > Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate. > (plurality should not be posited without > necessity - Occam's razor) > > > ---------------------------------- > > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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