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I'd say he's a Lantastic type...pay a ton of money and get shit for it...all in one box. Sean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Connell" <kevin@nw*.co*> To: "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>; "Sean M.Cary" <smcary@mi*.co*> Cc: "Techdiver Mailing List" <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 12:34 PM Subject: Re: Cave doubles > No, stone probably runs his systems using "AppleTalk" and wouldn't know > what "topology" meant, anyway > > hehehehehe > > At 04:44 PM 4/11/2000 -0400, Jim Cobb wrote: > >Oh, no, it's Sean Stone... > > > > Jim > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/ > > > > > From: "Sean M.Cary" <smcary@mi*.co*> > > > Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:37:11 -0400 > > > To: "Kevin Connell" <kevin@nw*.co*> > > > Cc: "Techdiver Mailing List" <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > > > Subject: Re: Cave doubles > > > > > > A Hybrid Mesh would offer better redundancy then the Star topology, > > > especially with 6 tanks :-) > > > > > > Sean > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Kevin Connell" <kevin@nw*.co*> > > > To: "Jeff Disler" <pdisler@io*.ne*>; "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*>; > > > "Art Greenberg" <artg@ec*.ne*> > > > Cc: "Cam Banks" <cam@ca*.co*>; "Techdiver Mailing List" > > > <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > > > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 10:03 PM > > > Subject: Re: Cave doubles > > > > > > > > >> Jim - this is getting pretty funny. I own a set of 46's and I certainly > > >> don't have any desire to band them together because I am too much of a > > >> pussy to carry 104's or I think they are a better solution than a single > > > 80. > > >> > > >> Better than "cave doubles", how about "The Greenberg Solution" > > >> > > >> Actually, what I'm planning on doing is duct-taping 6 AL13's together in a > > >> "star" configuration for full redundancy for reef diving in the tropics. > > >> > > >> At 04:07 PM 4/10/2000 -0400, Jim Cobb wrote: > > >>> Jeff- > > >>> > > >>> As I told Maggie and Art, if you have the money go ahead and get "OMS 46 > > >>> doubles", I just think that your money is better spent on a set of 95's > > > or > > >>> 104's which would wind up costing about the same and offer much more > > >>> utility. > > >>> > > >>> Every time I get passionate arguments for gear like this, I tend to > > > suspect > > >>> it's because A) they actually own the piece of sh, er, equipment in > > > question > > >>> and don't want to look like a knucklehead on the next dive trip, or B) > > > they > > >>> are about to unload the piece of sh, er, equipment in question on the > > >>> unsuspecting masses and don't want me to ruin the market. > > >>> > > >>> In this case the bottom has fallen out of the OMS steel 46 stage market > > > due > > >>> to their close proximity to several dead divers over the years and dozens > > > of > > >>> techies and marketers are desperately trying to come up with ways to get > > > rid > > >>> of these ridiculously expensive crappy POS. And the poor suckers thought > > >>> they found salvation in the new "OMS 46 doubles" market. > > >>> > > >>> PULL! BANG! Dusted that sucker! > > >>> > > >>> But, Jeff, I will give you that if you are belly-crawling through caves > > > and > > >>> need a low-profile air source, then "OMS 46 Doubles" are ideal for that > > >>> particular, narrow, targeted, unique, singular situation... Let's call > > > them > > >>> "cave doubles." > > >>> > > >>> Best Regards- > > >>> > > >>> Jim > > >>> > > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/ > > >>> > > >>>> From: Jeff Disler <pdisler@io*.ne*> > > >>>> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:55:34 -0500 > > >>>> To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, Art Greenberg > > >>> <artg@ec*.ne*>, Jim > > >>>> Cobb <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*> > > >>>> Cc: Cam Banks <cam@ca*.co*>, Techdiver Mailing List > > >>>> <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > > >>>> Subject: Re: Dual OMS 45's > > >>>> > > >>>> C'mon Jim, > > >>>> > > >>>> Don't close your mind to the possibility that small doubles, (OMS > > > 46's) > > >>>> might be a better set up than a single eighty for simple dives. > > > Probably > > >>>> most (on this list anyway) are already using the same backplate and > > > wings > > >>>> they use for their large doubles, to dive an Al 80 with an single tank > > >>>> adaptor. So for those who already have these tanks ( I already use > > > them for > > >>>> sump diving because, IMO, they are the best small tank for sump > > > diving) why > > >>>> not just them for as small doubles as well. They really don't weigh > > > anymore > > >>>> than an solo 80, except for the additional first stage. They don't go > > > way > > >>>> positive when near empty. They are easy to swim up from depth without > > > the > > >>>> aid of inflation. They fit closer to the back than an aluminim 80. I > > > don't > > >>>> think they have as much drag, certainly not any more than an alum 80. > > > These > > >>>> are just a few things about the tanks I like. > > >>>> > > >>>> Things that I think we should all like, at least tolerate, or could > > > just > > >>>> get use to about the 46 doubles: > > >>>> Hell you're covered if you blow a neck O-ring, if a reg fails (first > > > or > > >>>> second), if your buddy needs a bit more gas when his system goes boom > > >>>> catastrophically or just plain ol' fails , and You simply have more > > > gas, > > >>>> which, too much of never hurts. > > >>>> > > >>>> I agree, probably most people don't need to go out and spend the bucks > > > on > > >>>> dual 46's. But I'll bet if you actually dived my dual 46's you'd > > > prefer > > >>>> them over a single eighty. If you did not like them better, I'd be > > > suprised > > >>>> and would like to hear the reasons why. > > >>>> > > >>>> I believe in using the right gear for the task at hand as well. If I > > > need > > >>>> my big doubles for the dive I'm doing, I use them. If I need side > > > mounted > > >>>> 95's for a sump dive, I use them. What ever it takes for the dive, > > > thats > > >>>> what I'll choose. I'm certain the few rec dives I do could be done > > > with an > > >>>> alum 80, but I choose to have the redundancy for all my dives. Is that > > > so > > >>>> wrong? <g> > > >>>> > > >>>> Regards > > >>>> > > >>>> By they way, I've heard a lot of folks don't like these tanks because > > > they > > >>>> are to heavy. Anyone who does not like their oms 46 and wants to sell, > > > for > > >>>> a low price, let me know how much. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> "SILT HAPPENS"JD JEFF DISLER > > >>>> SAFE CAVING NSS 26000 > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > >>> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > >> > > >> > > >> ---------------------------------- > > >> Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> > > >> > > >> NW Labor Systems, Inc > > >> http://www.nwls.com > > >> > > >> Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate. > > >> (plurality should not be posited without > > >> necessity - Occam's razor) > > >> > > >> > > >> ---------------------------------- > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > >> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > > -- > > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > > > > >-- > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > ---------------------------------- > Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> > > NW Labor Systems, Inc > http://www.nwls.com > > Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate. > (plurality should not be posited without > necessity - Occam's razor) > > > ---------------------------------- > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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