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Ouch, even joking that comparison hurts! No one will ever see me eating cake (every day it seemed) on a web page, and I actually dive! Well, I did a _lot_ more before the kid arrived in Oct... :-) Sean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*> To: "Sean M.Cary" <smcary@mi*.co*>; "Kevin Connell" <kevin@nw*.co*> Cc: "Techdiver Mailing List" <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 4:44 PM Subject: Re: Cave doubles > Oh, no, it's Sean Stone... > > Jim > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/ > > > From: "Sean M.Cary" <smcary@mi*.co*> > > Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:37:11 -0400 > > To: "Kevin Connell" <kevin@nw*.co*> > > Cc: "Techdiver Mailing List" <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > > Subject: Re: Cave doubles > > > > A Hybrid Mesh would offer better redundancy then the Star topology, > > especially with 6 tanks :-) > > > > Sean > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kevin Connell" <kevin@nw*.co*> > > To: "Jeff Disler" <pdisler@io*.ne*>; "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*>; > > "Art Greenberg" <artg@ec*.ne*> > > Cc: "Cam Banks" <cam@ca*.co*>; "Techdiver Mailing List" > > <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 10:03 PM > > Subject: Re: Cave doubles > > > > > >> Jim - this is getting pretty funny. I own a set of 46's and I certainly > >> don't have any desire to band them together because I am too much of a > >> pussy to carry 104's or I think they are a better solution than a single > > 80. > >> > >> Better than "cave doubles", how about "The Greenberg Solution" > >> > >> Actually, what I'm planning on doing is duct-taping 6 AL13's together in a > >> "star" configuration for full redundancy for reef diving in the tropics. > >> > >> At 04:07 PM 4/10/2000 -0400, Jim Cobb wrote: > >>> Jeff- > >>> > >>> As I told Maggie and Art, if you have the money go ahead and get "OMS 46 > >>> doubles", I just think that your money is better spent on a set of 95's > > or > >>> 104's which would wind up costing about the same and offer much more > >>> utility. > >>> > >>> Every time I get passionate arguments for gear like this, I tend to > > suspect > >>> it's because A) they actually own the piece of sh, er, equipment in > > question > >>> and don't want to look like a knucklehead on the next dive trip, or B) > > they > >>> are about to unload the piece of sh, er, equipment in question on the > >>> unsuspecting masses and don't want me to ruin the market. > >>> > >>> In this case the bottom has fallen out of the OMS steel 46 stage market > > due > >>> to their close proximity to several dead divers over the years and dozens > > of > >>> techies and marketers are desperately trying to come up with ways to get > > rid > >>> of these ridiculously expensive crappy POS. And the poor suckers thought > >>> they found salvation in the new "OMS 46 doubles" market. > >>> > >>> PULL! BANG! Dusted that sucker! > >>> > >>> But, Jeff, I will give you that if you are belly-crawling through caves > > and > >>> need a low-profile air source, then "OMS 46 Doubles" are ideal for that > >>> particular, narrow, targeted, unique, singular situation... Let's call > > them > >>> "cave doubles." > >>> > >>> Best Regards- > >>> > >>> Jim > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/ > >>> > >>>> From: Jeff Disler <pdisler@io*.ne*> > >>>> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:55:34 -0500 > >>>> To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, Art Greenberg > >>> <artg@ec*.ne*>, Jim > >>>> Cobb <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*> > >>>> Cc: Cam Banks <cam@ca*.co*>, Techdiver Mailing List > >>>> <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > >>>> Subject: Re: Dual OMS 45's > >>>> > >>>> C'mon Jim, > >>>> > >>>> Don't close your mind to the possibility that small doubles, (OMS > > 46's) > >>>> might be a better set up than a single eighty for simple dives. > > Probably > >>>> most (on this list anyway) are already using the same backplate and > > wings > >>>> they use for their large doubles, to dive an Al 80 with an single tank > >>>> adaptor. So for those who already have these tanks ( I already use > > them for > >>>> sump diving because, IMO, they are the best small tank for sump > > diving) why > >>>> not just them for as small doubles as well. They really don't weigh > > anymore > >>>> than an solo 80, except for the additional first stage. They don't go > > way > >>>> positive when near empty. They are easy to swim up from depth without > > the > >>>> aid of inflation. They fit closer to the back than an aluminim 80. I > > don't > >>>> think they have as much drag, certainly not any more than an alum 80. > > These > >>>> are just a few things about the tanks I like. > >>>> > >>>> Things that I think we should all like, at least tolerate, or could > > just > >>>> get use to about the 46 doubles: > >>>> Hell you're covered if you blow a neck O-ring, if a reg fails (first > > or > >>>> second), if your buddy needs a bit more gas when his system goes boom > >>>> catastrophically or just plain ol' fails , and You simply have more > > gas, > >>>> which, too much of never hurts. > >>>> > >>>> I agree, probably most people don't need to go out and spend the bucks > > on > >>>> dual 46's. But I'll bet if you actually dived my dual 46's you'd > > prefer > >>>> them over a single eighty. If you did not like them better, I'd be > > suprised > >>>> and would like to hear the reasons why. > >>>> > >>>> I believe in using the right gear for the task at hand as well. If I > > need > >>>> my big doubles for the dive I'm doing, I use them. If I need side > > mounted > >>>> 95's for a sump dive, I use them. What ever it takes for the dive, > > thats > >>>> what I'll choose. I'm certain the few rec dives I do could be done > > with an > >>>> alum 80, but I choose to have the redundancy for all my dives. Is that > > so > >>>> wrong? <g> > >>>> > >>>> Regards > >>>> > >>>> By they way, I've heard a lot of folks don't like these tanks because > > they > >>>> are to heavy. Anyone who does not like their oms 46 and wants to sell, > > for > >>>> a low price, let me know how much. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> "SILT HAPPENS"JD JEFF DISLER > >>>> SAFE CAVING NSS 26000 > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >>> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------- > >> Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> > >> > >> NW Labor Systems, Inc > >> http://www.nwls.com > >> > >> Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate. > >> (plurality should not be posited without > >> necessity - Occam's razor) > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------- > >> > >> -- > >> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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