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Oh, no, it's Sean Stone... Jim ------------------------------------------------------------------- Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/ > From: "Sean M.Cary" <smcary@mi*.co*> > Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:37:11 -0400 > To: "Kevin Connell" <kevin@nw*.co*> > Cc: "Techdiver Mailing List" <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > Subject: Re: Cave doubles > > A Hybrid Mesh would offer better redundancy then the Star topology, > especially with 6 tanks :-) > > Sean > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Connell" <kevin@nw*.co*> > To: "Jeff Disler" <pdisler@io*.ne*>; "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*>; > "Art Greenberg" <artg@ec*.ne*> > Cc: "Cam Banks" <cam@ca*.co*>; "Techdiver Mailing List" > <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 10:03 PM > Subject: Re: Cave doubles > > >> Jim - this is getting pretty funny. I own a set of 46's and I certainly >> don't have any desire to band them together because I am too much of a >> pussy to carry 104's or I think they are a better solution than a single > 80. >> >> Better than "cave doubles", how about "The Greenberg Solution" >> >> Actually, what I'm planning on doing is duct-taping 6 AL13's together in a >> "star" configuration for full redundancy for reef diving in the tropics. >> >> At 04:07 PM 4/10/2000 -0400, Jim Cobb wrote: >>> Jeff- >>> >>> As I told Maggie and Art, if you have the money go ahead and get "OMS 46 >>> doubles", I just think that your money is better spent on a set of 95's > or >>> 104's which would wind up costing about the same and offer much more >>> utility. >>> >>> Every time I get passionate arguments for gear like this, I tend to > suspect >>> it's because A) they actually own the piece of sh, er, equipment in > question >>> and don't want to look like a knucklehead on the next dive trip, or B) > they >>> are about to unload the piece of sh, er, equipment in question on the >>> unsuspecting masses and don't want me to ruin the market. >>> >>> In this case the bottom has fallen out of the OMS steel 46 stage market > due >>> to their close proximity to several dead divers over the years and dozens > of >>> techies and marketers are desperately trying to come up with ways to get > rid >>> of these ridiculously expensive crappy POS. And the poor suckers thought >>> they found salvation in the new "OMS 46 doubles" market. >>> >>> PULL! BANG! Dusted that sucker! >>> >>> But, Jeff, I will give you that if you are belly-crawling through caves > and >>> need a low-profile air source, then "OMS 46 Doubles" are ideal for that >>> particular, narrow, targeted, unique, singular situation... Let's call > them >>> "cave doubles." >>> >>> Best Regards- >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/ >>> >>>> From: Jeff Disler <pdisler@io*.ne*> >>>> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:55:34 -0500 >>>> To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, Art Greenberg >>> <artg@ec*.ne*>, Jim >>>> Cobb <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*> >>>> Cc: Cam Banks <cam@ca*.co*>, Techdiver Mailing List >>>> <techdiver@aquanaut.com> >>>> Subject: Re: Dual OMS 45's >>>> >>>> C'mon Jim, >>>> >>>> Don't close your mind to the possibility that small doubles, (OMS > 46's) >>>> might be a better set up than a single eighty for simple dives. > Probably >>>> most (on this list anyway) are already using the same backplate and > wings >>>> they use for their large doubles, to dive an Al 80 with an single tank >>>> adaptor. So for those who already have these tanks ( I already use > them for >>>> sump diving because, IMO, they are the best small tank for sump > diving) why >>>> not just them for as small doubles as well. They really don't weigh > anymore >>>> than an solo 80, except for the additional first stage. They don't go > way >>>> positive when near empty. They are easy to swim up from depth without > the >>>> aid of inflation. They fit closer to the back than an aluminim 80. I > don't >>>> think they have as much drag, certainly not any more than an alum 80. > These >>>> are just a few things about the tanks I like. >>>> >>>> Things that I think we should all like, at least tolerate, or could > just >>>> get use to about the 46 doubles: >>>> Hell you're covered if you blow a neck O-ring, if a reg fails (first > or >>>> second), if your buddy needs a bit more gas when his system goes boom >>>> catastrophically or just plain ol' fails , and You simply have more > gas, >>>> which, too much of never hurts. >>>> >>>> I agree, probably most people don't need to go out and spend the bucks > on >>>> dual 46's. But I'll bet if you actually dived my dual 46's you'd > prefer >>>> them over a single eighty. If you did not like them better, I'd be > suprised >>>> and would like to hear the reasons why. >>>> >>>> I believe in using the right gear for the task at hand as well. If I > need >>>> my big doubles for the dive I'm doing, I use them. If I need side > mounted >>>> 95's for a sump dive, I use them. What ever it takes for the dive, > thats >>>> what I'll choose. I'm certain the few rec dives I do could be done > with an >>>> alum 80, but I choose to have the redundancy for all my dives. Is that > so >>>> wrong? <g> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> By they way, I've heard a lot of folks don't like these tanks because > they >>>> are to heavy. Anyone who does not like their oms 46 and wants to sell, > for >>>> a low price, let me know how much. >>>> >>>> >>>> "SILT HAPPENS"JD JEFF DISLER >>>> SAFE CAVING NSS 26000 >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >>> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> >> >> ---------------------------------- >> Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> >> >> NW Labor Systems, Inc >> http://www.nwls.com >> >> Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate. >> (plurality should not be posited without >> necessity - Occam's razor) >> >> >> ---------------------------------- >> >> -- >> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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