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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:34:52 +0000
To: <kmetcalfe@ns*.na*.mi*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
From: Michael Maibaum <mike@ma*.or*>
Subject: RE: Diver death in Laguna beach, CA.
>I think that if you had read it closer, you'd notice that the dead diver was
>escorted to the beach.  AFTER his buddy left him ON THE BEACH, he went back
>into the water and died.  That's the way I read it.  If that's correct, then
>his buddy fulfilled his responsibility.  He took his buddy safely to shore.
>After that, it's out of his hands.

as I said to CaptJT, if my buddy abandons a dive because of a medical/dive
problem I don not just abandon them on a beach so if the get worse they can
just drop dead or if they get worse become confused (not an unknown symptom
of all sorts of diver related, and unrelated problems) they get back in the
water and kill themselves.  Hey, I'm not saying that a buddy should stay
together for hours and hours but dropping and ill buddy on the beach and
going straight back is not my idea of a "rescue".

Now maybe the guy was fine, just a bit seasick, felt better and decided to
carry on.  He wasn't really ill.  Well then he shouldn't have got back in
the water, but if the victim was or wasn't ill is irellevant he might have
been.

By leaving him, not even sure if he'd got out of the water safely the buddy
could not have known if the guy was about to have, was having an MI, or a
stroke or even had been poisoned by bad air.  None of those things may have
happened, or they might have, I think the buddy should have stayed to be
sure his buddy was ok.  Or if someone has a fast ascent, you go to the
beach, leave them there and go back to your dive, I'm sure I don't have to
spell out the possibilities there.  Is that really so different?

Again if I relally have got hold of the wrong end of the stick and the
buddy hung round like a good bloke and had just gone up the beach to pee
when he saw the light, and the article was misleading about no-one knowing
if he'd got out of the water or not, well then I'm wrong and I'm sorry, but
otherwise I pretty much stand by my original comment, I wouldn't dive with
someone who would leave me after a problem causing an abort on/near a beach
at night and didn't stay to make sure nothing worse developed.

Mike
Michael Maibaum 		mike@ma*.or*
020 8 743 3668 (H)		020 8 383 2390 (W)
07803 070761   (M)
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