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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:23:10 +0000
To: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
From: Michael Maibaum <mike@ma*.or*>
Subject: Re: Diver death in Laguna beach, CA.
>Hi Michael
>I do think you should reconsider your statement. I have read the story a
>couple of times and based on the 3 bystanders it says that he had GONE BACK
>in to the water, meaning he chose to start a new dive SOLO. The buddy did
>not fail him or leave him. The dead diver chose to go back in the water
>over a piece of gear (light).

well if you are right then I apologise to the buddy but the wasn't the way
it read to me

	"Bleijenberg followed Roth to the beach.

OK, he followed him to the beach but...

	"After five minutes, he saw
       a light on the beach moving back and forth, like someone was
       looking for something. Three bystanders on the beach told him
       they were looking for a diver who had gone back into the water to
       look for a light he'd lost"

He still left the guy, presumably on his own (who were the bystanders?)
and

       "It's unclear whether Roth made it onto the beach or whether he
       stayed in the water to shout ashore before going back out to sea."

If his buddy had done his job he MUST have known if the guy had got out, in
this sort of situation he should have been looking after his buddy, but he
must have left when they were in the shallows and gone off on his own,
although how 5 minutes later he saw the light I don't know.

       "After about 10 minutes of walking on the shore, Bleijenberg
       climbed the rocks and spotted Roth floating face-down about 50
       yards off the beach near the south side of the cove. When he
       reached him, Roth was unresponsive, with his buoyancy
       compensator partially inflated and the rest of his equipment
       intact."

Then the guy was found dead, now my idea of a good buddy is one when you
feel sufficiently bad to seriously affect the dive and abandon it during
the dive is one that hangs around for a while to make sure you are ok, not
jumps straight back in.

>
>This is the same way that Rob Wolvo killed himself by going back to look
>for a lost mask with 750 psi in his tank, then ran OOA and drowned. NO
>PIECE OF  GEAR IS WORTH RISKING YOUR LIFE OVER, nor is fish, lobsters, and
>artifacts! As in most deaths, if you look at the facts it is usely the dead
>divers own fault. Notice I said MOST!

I agree wholeheartedly with this, we've had a couple of people killied in
the uk in a similar way, just going to get something they dropped with very
little air/tank turned off etc and ending up dead, there fault and it
shouldn't happen.

BUT

if the buddy had stayed with him, he either wouldn't have let him enter the
water or would have been with him when whatever happened happened.  This
guy had been showing signs of having a problem and shouldn't have been left
alone.


Mike

Michael Maibaum 		mike@ma*.or*
020 8 743 3668 (H)		020 8 383 2390 (W)
07803 070761   (M)
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