Manoli,

Bowden is exactly who was mentioned in that same post. He is usually
referred to as "Batman". Read with me:

Trey wrote:
"Chee, the D 400? Geez you will admit to anything. That is an Air One in
a box. Only the worst stroke , like Batman , would use something like
this in the water."

So, I guess it has already been said Manoli.

Best,

THOMAS

> ok ok  Now you will both come and say that D400 is bullshit , so why dont
you
> say
> that Jim Bowden is also a stroke he is being using it for record dive
> explorations ?
>
> But im supriced you didnt mention the good ones , you know why because if
i was
> asking
> we all know the answer.  And im explaining my self : It is not only me
that i am
> saying that
> that this list serves many many Marketing purposes , You people just swear
to
> anyone that uses anything
> thats different with you and here is some email i collect for many people
that
> sometimes they were respectable here
> and the other day your kind was treading them like shit. Here is some
example
> from people joining the list :
>
> Everyone on this
> > list knows better how to dive than everyone else on the list.
>
>  >I am an English lurker on the list, and I find the
> level of discourse pursued by some of the Americans to be infantile and
> indicative of a personality disorder. You asked a reasonable question. I
> hope you got a reasonable answer from somebody.
> Might I suggest subscribing to scuba-uk (mail 'subscribe scuba-uk' to
> majordomo@dr*.ne*) for a more civilised discussion of the same topics,
> amongst grown-ups, without the flaming.
>
> >and they are very quick to "flame" anyone who expresses a
> contrary opinion.
>
> >Oh boy are you going to get fried for this question, Manos   :-)
Better
> start ducking now.   BTW, I use a computer myself but don't tell anyone.
>
> I have hundrets of messages like that which i can forward every day but i
dont
> think
> that this is the point of this list. You idiots have to learn to respect
other
> people.
> I have been subscribed to many many email list on different subjects but
believe
> me
> that the way of conversation here is worse  than anything and anywhere
else.
> To be fare i learn a few things from some very respectable people but the
"ego
> divers "
> here are alot comparing to the decent ones.  I prefer to be a respectable
man
> and
> a stroke rather than being one of  your kind
>
> "the best diver underwater  ( as you thing ) and a Dick head on surface ".
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Scott wrote:
>
> > No coke, Petsi.
> >
> > You should have warned us about the wife joke, Trey, now I have to clean
my
> > desk. I bet Manos and her would get along great.
> >
> > We call the D400 the "scrotum". Isn't that Greek as well?
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
> > To: "Cheeburger Manoli" <manos@ma*.co*.cy*>
> > Cc: "S I L E N T I M M E R S I O N" <silent@cu*.ne*>; "Tech Diver"
> > <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 12:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: wing failure
> >
> > > Chee, the D 400? Geez you will admit to anything. That is an Air One
in
> > > a box. Only the worst stroke , like Batman , would use something like
> > > this in the water. By the way , pick my wife up at the airport. I cut
> > > some holes in the box so she can breathe.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheeburger Manoli wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Stroke call your Mother you stupid f... idiot.
> > > > For your information those tiny ones as you call them he he
> > > > you can find everywhere in Cyprus.
> > > >
> > > > I hate alu tanks and im not suprice you are suggesting  them since
you
> > are sick
> > > > on the head
> > > > and dot try to give me a lecture about you being  Dir. Everyone can
see
> > from
> > > > your
> > > > words that you are another "ego diver "
> > > >
> > > >   Any way who the f...
> > > > told you that im using sherwood or other crab regs ? Im using
Scubapro
> > D400
> > > > with Mk20 and R380 with Mk20 Halcyon Hardplate and Wings.
> > > >
> > > > Not only you idiots are swearing at me for
> > > > asking a simple question you  also started to put  words in my mouth
> > now.
> > > >
> > > > Im starting to get sick of this List where you people love to insult
> > each other.
> > > >
> > > > Manos
> > > >
> > > > S I L E N T I M M E R S I O N wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The strokes will never learn. But you are right here, the drysuit
is
> > the
> > > > > best option to make his dives safer. We dive here in the Caribbean
> > with
> > > > > TLS350's and the water is 82F/28C. It all comes down to
undergarment
> > as you
> > > > > say.
> > > > > We don't use argon but rather air to fill the suit and that works
just
> > fine.
> > > > > That is something else the strokes forget, they think that they
only
> > need to
> > > > > buy a drysuit...but actually you also need your small cylinder, a
way
> > to
> > > > > attach it to your harnass or doubles, a regulator, pressure gauge
(one
> > of
> > > > > those really tiny ones, probably not to easy to find on Cyprus),
of
> > course
> > > > > an overpressure valve, and the proper length hose.
> > > > > Then you might want to sell your steel stages, buy alu40's, buy
decent
> > regs
> > > > > for the stages not the crapy Sherwoods or whatever convoluted crap
you
> > are
> > > > > using now and yes, it is all very expensive! And guess
what...there is
> > no
> > > > > substitute for the right equipment. So you either have the right
> > equiment
> > > > > and dive or you have the bullshit equipment and die.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > THOMAS
> > > > >
> > > > > > >Im so much worried that i got no redundancy for my wings. Since
> > water is
> > > > > > >quite warm here i  always
> > > > > > >dive in a 5mm wet suit. So what's Dir in this case ? Pls don't
> > answer to
> > > > > > >me  " get a Dry Suit "
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Unfortunately, "get a dry suit" is quite probably the right
answer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Manos, I don't know what you are calling "quite warm" water.
5mm
> > neoprene
> > > > > > wetsuit is suitable for what we in Texas consider fairly cold
water
> > (say,
> > > > > > down to 65 F / 18 C or so).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am told by knowledgeable local divers that drysuits are
suitable
> > for all
> > > > > > water temperatures, given only a careful choice of thermal
> > undergarments.
> > > > > > At least one company makes a drysuit that they advertise as
being
> > > > > > specifically intended for warm water diving.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >With empty wings at 35 meters i try to deploy a lift back and
winch
> > my
> > > > > > >self up. Although it
> > > > > > >worked it proved to be physical demanding and my air
consumption
> > was at
> > > > > > >its maximum.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This sounds like a good emergency procedure rehearsal, but it
also
> > sounds
> > > > > > like you are dangerously overweighted.  Given that you were
wearing
> > a 5mm
> > > > > > neoprene wetsuit, that probably requires close to 20 lbs / 9 kg
of
> > lead at
> > > > > > the surface, that had lost half its buoyancy due to compression
at
> > depth,
> > > > > > this is perhaps not surprising.
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