"Bowden" and "best divers" in one post?  I am certain you will not find that
anywhere else in the archives.

Manos, I am beginning to suspect a troll.  Nobody can be this stupid without
trying.

Bowden uses what ever anybody will give him.  The WKPP accepts nothing from
anyone.

You figure it out.

I have made my last response to this guy.  Somebody else needs to play
"whack-a-mole" for a while.

Trout

-----Original Message-----
From: Manos Manoli <manos@ma*.co*.cy*>
To: Scott <scottk@hc*.co*>; Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Thursday, February 10, 2000 2:23 PM
Subject: Best Divers


>ok ok  Now you will both come and say that D400 is bullshit , so why dont
you
>say
>that Jim Bowden is also a stroke he is being using it for record dive
>explorations ?
>
>But im supriced you didnt mention the good ones , you know why because if i
was
>asking
>we all know the answer.  And im explaining my self : It is not only me that
i am
>saying that
>that this list serves many many Marketing purposes , You people just swear
to
>anyone that uses anything
>thats different with you and here is some email i collect for many people
that
>sometimes they were respectable here
>and the other day your kind was treading them like shit. Here is some
example
>from people joining the list :
>
>Everyone on this
>> list knows better how to dive than everyone else on the list.
>
> >I am an English lurker on the list, and I find the
>level of discourse pursued by some of the Americans to be infantile and
>indicative of a personality disorder. You asked a reasonable question. I
>hope you got a reasonable answer from somebody.
>Might I suggest subscribing to scuba-uk (mail 'subscribe scuba-uk' to
>majordomo@dr*.ne*) for a more civilised discussion of the same topics,
>amongst grown-ups, without the flaming.
>
>>and they are very quick to "flame" anyone who expresses a
>contrary opinion.
>
>>Oh boy are you going to get fried for this question, Manos   :-)
Better
>start ducking now.   BTW, I use a computer myself but don't tell anyone.
>
>I have hundrets of messages like that which i can forward every day but i
dont
>think
>that this is the point of this list. You idiots have to learn to respect
other
>people.
>I have been subscribed to many many email list on different subjects but
believe
>me
>that the way of conversation here is worse  than anything and anywhere
else.
>To be fare i learn a few things from some very respectable people but the
"ego
>divers "
>here are alot comparing to the decent ones.  I prefer to be a respectable
man
>and
>a stroke rather than being one of  your kind
>
>"the best diver underwater  ( as you thing ) and a Dick head on surface ".
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Scott wrote:
>
>> No coke, Petsi.
>>
>> You should have warned us about the wife joke, Trey, now I have to clean
my
>> desk. I bet Manos and her would get along great.
>>
>> We call the D400 the "scrotum". Isn't that Greek as well?
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
>> To: "Cheeburger Manoli" <manos@ma*.co*.cy*>
>> Cc: "S I L E N T I M M E R S I O N" <silent@cu*.ne*>; "Tech Diver"
>> <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 12:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: wing failure
>>
>> > Chee, the D 400? Geez you will admit to anything. That is an Air One in
>> > a box. Only the worst stroke , like Batman , would use something like
>> > this in the water. By the way , pick my wife up at the airport. I cut
>> > some holes in the box so she can breathe.
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheeburger Manoli wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Stroke call your Mother you stupid f... idiot.
>> > > For your information those tiny ones as you call them he he
>> > > you can find everywhere in Cyprus.
>> > >
>> > > I hate alu tanks and im not suprice you are suggesting  them since
you
>> are sick
>> > > on the head
>> > > and dot try to give me a lecture about you being  Dir. Everyone can
see
>> from
>> > > your
>> > > words that you are another "ego diver "
>> > >
>> > >   Any way who the f...
>> > > told you that im using sherwood or other crab regs ? Im using
Scubapro
>> D400
>> > > with Mk20 and R380 with Mk20 Halcyon Hardplate and Wings.
>> > >
>> > > Not only you idiots are swearing at me for
>> > > asking a simple question you  also started to put  words in my mouth
>> now.
>> > >
>> > > Im starting to get sick of this List where you people love to insult
>> each other.
>> > >
>> > > Manos
>> > >
>> > > S I L E N T I M M E R S I O N wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > The strokes will never learn. But you are right here, the drysuit
is
>> the
>> > > > best option to make his dives safer. We dive here in the Caribbean
>> with
>> > > > TLS350's and the water is 82F/28C. It all comes down to
undergarment
>> as you
>> > > > say.
>> > > > We don't use argon but rather air to fill the suit and that works
just
>> fine.
>> > > > That is something else the strokes forget, they think that they
only
>> need to
>> > > > buy a drysuit...but actually you also need your small cylinder, a
way
>> to
>> > > > attach it to your harnass or doubles, a regulator, pressure gauge
(one
>> of
>> > > > those really tiny ones, probably not to easy to find on Cyprus), of
>> course
>> > > > an overpressure valve, and the proper length hose.
>> > > > Then you might want to sell your steel stages, buy alu40's, buy
decent
>> regs
>> > > > for the stages not the crapy Sherwoods or whatever convoluted crap
you
>> are
>> > > > using now and yes, it is all very expensive! And guess what...there
is
>> no
>> > > > substitute for the right equipment. So you either have the right
>> equiment
>> > > > and dive or you have the bullshit equipment and die.
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards,
>> > > >
>> > > > THOMAS
>> > > >
>> > > > > >Im so much worried that i got no redundancy for my wings. Since
>> water is
>> > > > > >quite warm here i  always
>> > > > > >dive in a 5mm wet suit. So what's Dir in this case ? Pls don't
>> answer to
>> > > > > >me  " get a Dry Suit "
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Unfortunately, "get a dry suit" is quite probably the right
answer.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Manos, I don't know what you are calling "quite warm" water.  5mm
>> neoprene
>> > > > > wetsuit is suitable for what we in Texas consider fairly cold
water
>> (say,
>> > > > > down to 65 F / 18 C or so).
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I am told by knowledgeable local divers that drysuits are
suitable
>> for all
>> > > > > water temperatures, given only a careful choice of thermal
>> undergarments.
>> > > > > At least one company makes a drysuit that they advertise as being
>> > > > > specifically intended for warm water diving.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >With empty wings at 35 meters i try to deploy a lift back and
winch
>> my
>> > > > > >self up. Although it
>> > > > > >worked it proved to be physical demanding and my air consumption
>> was at
>> > > > > >its maximum.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > This sounds like a good emergency procedure rehearsal, but it
also
>> sounds
>> > > > > like you are dangerously overweighted.  Given that you were
wearing
>> a 5mm
>> > > > > neoprene wetsuit, that probably requires close to 20 lbs / 9 kg
of
>> lead at
>> > > > > the surface, that had lost half its buoyancy due to compression
at
>> depth,
>> > > > > this is perhaps not surprising.
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