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ok ok Now you will both come and say that D400 is bullshit , so why dont you say that Jim Bowden is also a stroke he is being using it for record dive explorations ? But im supriced you didnt mention the good ones , you know why because if i was asking we all know the answer. And im explaining my self : It is not only me that i am saying that that this list serves many many Marketing purposes , You people just swear to anyone that uses anything thats different with you and here is some email i collect for many people that sometimes they were respectable here and the other day your kind was treading them like shit. Here is some example from people joining the list : Everyone on this > list knows better how to dive than everyone else on the list. >I am an English lurker on the list, and I find the level of discourse pursued by some of the Americans to be infantile and indicative of a personality disorder. You asked a reasonable question. I hope you got a reasonable answer from somebody. Might I suggest subscribing to scuba-uk (mail 'subscribe scuba-uk' to majordomo@dr*.ne*) for a more civilised discussion of the same topics, amongst grown-ups, without the flaming. >and they are very quick to "flame" anyone who expresses a contrary opinion. >Oh boy are you going to get fried for this question, Manos :-) Better start ducking now. BTW, I use a computer myself but don't tell anyone. I have hundrets of messages like that which i can forward every day but i dont think that this is the point of this list. You idiots have to learn to respect other people. I have been subscribed to many many email list on different subjects but believe me that the way of conversation here is worse than anything and anywhere else. To be fare i learn a few things from some very respectable people but the "ego divers " here are alot comparing to the decent ones. I prefer to be a respectable man and a stroke rather than being one of your kind "the best diver underwater ( as you thing ) and a Dick head on surface ". Scott wrote: > No coke, Petsi. > > You should have warned us about the wife joke, Trey, now I have to clean my > desk. I bet Manos and her would get along great. > > We call the D400 the "scrotum". Isn't that Greek as well? > > Scott > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*> > To: "Cheeburger Manoli" <manos@ma*.co*.cy*> > Cc: "S I L E N T I M M E R S I O N" <silent@cu*.ne*>; "Tech Diver" > <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 12:23 PM > Subject: Re: wing failure > > > Chee, the D 400? Geez you will admit to anything. That is an Air One in > > a box. Only the worst stroke , like Batman , would use something like > > this in the water. By the way , pick my wife up at the airport. I cut > > some holes in the box so she can breathe. > > > > > > Cheeburger Manoli wrote: > > > > > > Stroke call your Mother you stupid f... idiot. > > > For your information those tiny ones as you call them he he > > > you can find everywhere in Cyprus. > > > > > > I hate alu tanks and im not suprice you are suggesting them since you > are sick > > > on the head > > > and dot try to give me a lecture about you being Dir. Everyone can see > from > > > your > > > words that you are another "ego diver " > > > > > > Any way who the f... > > > told you that im using sherwood or other crab regs ? Im using Scubapro > D400 > > > with Mk20 and R380 with Mk20 Halcyon Hardplate and Wings. > > > > > > Not only you idiots are swearing at me for > > > asking a simple question you also started to put words in my mouth > now. > > > > > > Im starting to get sick of this List where you people love to insult > each other. > > > > > > Manos > > > > > > S I L E N T I M M E R S I O N wrote: > > > > > > > The strokes will never learn. But you are right here, the drysuit is > the > > > > best option to make his dives safer. We dive here in the Caribbean > with > > > > TLS350's and the water is 82F/28C. It all comes down to undergarment > as you > > > > say. > > > > We don't use argon but rather air to fill the suit and that works just > fine. > > > > That is something else the strokes forget, they think that they only > need to > > > > buy a drysuit...but actually you also need your small cylinder, a way > to > > > > attach it to your harnass or doubles, a regulator, pressure gauge (one > of > > > > those really tiny ones, probably not to easy to find on Cyprus), of > course > > > > an overpressure valve, and the proper length hose. > > > > Then you might want to sell your steel stages, buy alu40's, buy decent > regs > > > > for the stages not the crapy Sherwoods or whatever convoluted crap you > are > > > > using now and yes, it is all very expensive! And guess what...there is > no > > > > substitute for the right equipment. So you either have the right > equiment > > > > and dive or you have the bullshit equipment and die. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > THOMAS > > > > > > > > > >Im so much worried that i got no redundancy for my wings. Since > water is > > > > > >quite warm here i always > > > > > >dive in a 5mm wet suit. So what's Dir in this case ? Pls don't > answer to > > > > > >me " get a Dry Suit " > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, "get a dry suit" is quite probably the right answer. > > > > > > > > > > Manos, I don't know what you are calling "quite warm" water. 5mm > neoprene > > > > > wetsuit is suitable for what we in Texas consider fairly cold water > (say, > > > > > down to 65 F / 18 C or so). > > > > > > > > > > I am told by knowledgeable local divers that drysuits are suitable > for all > > > > > water temperatures, given only a careful choice of thermal > undergarments. > > > > > At least one company makes a drysuit that they advertise as being > > > > > specifically intended for warm water diving. > > > > > > > > > > >With empty wings at 35 meters i try to deploy a lift back and winch > my > > > > > >self up. Although it > > > > > >worked it proved to be physical demanding and my air consumption > was at > > > > > >its maximum. > > > > > > > > > > This sounds like a good emergency procedure rehearsal, but it also > sounds > > > > > like you are dangerously overweighted. Given that you were wearing > a 5mm > > > > > neoprene wetsuit, that probably requires close to 20 lbs / 9 kg of > lead at > > > > > the surface, that had lost half its buoyancy due to compression at > depth, > > > > > this is perhaps not surprising. > > > > > -- > > > > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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