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At 01:14 11/02/00 , Manos Manoli wrote: >ok ok Now you will both come and say that D400 is bullshit , so why dont you >say >that Jim Bowden is also a stroke he is being using it for record dive >explorations ? Manoli, I don't get involved in this 'my regulator is great/no it's shit" stuff because I only know enough to use what works & what is recommended by those who know, rather than to argue about the rest of the silliness the dive manufacturing industry foists on unsuspecting dive consumers. But I DO take strong exception to the part of your post concerning Jim Bowden. He uses the absolutely WORST gear for the dives he is doing: Open circuit for >200 metre dives? Only a total dickbrain would dive that way. And calling his pitch black, dope on a rope, yoyo dive stunts 'explorations' is utter bullshit. When he gets to the end of the rope his eyesight is fucked anyway. For what he does, you could do more exploration in a day with a drop camera than he has done in a lifetime of "Wheeee! Look at Meeeee!" stunt-diving. As far as his choice of regulators goes, giving bullshit gear away free to high-profile whackos like Bowdon is the easiest way Scubapro can sell this crap to the ignorant and impressionable masses. rgrds billyw >But im supriced you didnt mention the good ones , you know why because if i was >asking >we all know the answer. And im explaining my self : It is not only me that i am >saying that >that this list serves many many Marketing purposes , You people just swear to >anyone that uses anything >thats different with you and here is some email i collect for many people that >sometimes they were respectable here >and the other day your kind was treading them like shit. Here is some example >from people joining the list : > >Everyone on this > > list knows better how to dive than everyone else on the list. > > >I am an English lurker on the list, and I find the >level of discourse pursued by some of the Americans to be infantile and >indicative of a personality disorder. You asked a reasonable question. I >hope you got a reasonable answer from somebody. >Might I suggest subscribing to scuba-uk (mail 'subscribe scuba-uk' to >majordomo@dr*.ne*) for a more civilised discussion of the same topics, >amongst grown-ups, without the flaming. > > >and they are very quick to "flame" anyone who expresses a >contrary opinion. > > >Oh boy are you going to get fried for this question, Manos :-) Better >start ducking now. BTW, I use a computer myself but don't tell anyone. > >I have hundrets of messages like that which i can forward every day but i dont >think >that this is the point of this list. You idiots have to learn to respect other >people. >I have been subscribed to many many email list on different subjects but believe >me >that the way of conversation here is worse than anything and anywhere else. >To be fare i learn a few things from some very respectable people but the "ego >divers " >here are alot comparing to the decent ones. I prefer to be a respectable man >and >a stroke rather than being one of your kind > >"the best diver underwater ( as you thing ) and a Dick head on surface ". > > > > > > >Scott wrote: > > > No coke, Petsi. > > > > You should have warned us about the wife joke, Trey, now I have to clean my > > desk. I bet Manos and her would get along great. > > > > We call the D400 the "scrotum". Isn't that Greek as well? > > > > Scott > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*> > > To: "Cheeburger Manoli" <manos@ma*.co*.cy*> > > Cc: "S I L E N T I M M E R S I O N" <silent@cu*.ne*>; "Tech Diver" > > <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 12:23 PM > > Subject: Re: wing failure > > > > > Chee, the D 400? Geez you will admit to anything. That is an Air One in > > > a box. Only the worst stroke , like Batman , would use something like > > > this in the water. By the way , pick my wife up at the airport. I cut > > > some holes in the box so she can breathe. > > > > > > > > > Cheeburger Manoli wrote: > > > > > > > > Stroke call your Mother you stupid f... idiot. > > > > For your information those tiny ones as you call them he he > > > > you can find everywhere in Cyprus. > > > > > > > > I hate alu tanks and im not suprice you are suggesting them since you > > are sick > > > > on the head > > > > and dot try to give me a lecture about you being Dir. Everyone can see > > from > > > > your > > > > words that you are another "ego diver " > > > > > > > > Any way who the f... > > > > told you that im using sherwood or other crab regs ? Im using Scubapro > > D400 > > > > with Mk20 and R380 with Mk20 Halcyon Hardplate and Wings. > > > > > > > > Not only you idiots are swearing at me for > > > > asking a simple question you also started to put words in my mouth > > now. > > > > > > > > Im starting to get sick of this List where you people love to insult > > each other. > > > > > > > > Manos > > > > > > > > S I L E N T I M M E R S I O N wrote: > > > > > > > > > The strokes will never learn. But you are right here, the drysuit is > > the > > > > > best option to make his dives safer. We dive here in the Caribbean > > with > > > > > TLS350's and the water is 82F/28C. It all comes down to undergarment > > as you > > > > > say. > > > > > We don't use argon but rather air to fill the suit and that works just > > fine. > > > > > That is something else the strokes forget, they think that they only > > need to > > > > > buy a drysuit...but actually you also need your small cylinder, a way > > to > > > > > attach it to your harnass or doubles, a regulator, pressure gauge (one > > of > > > > > those really tiny ones, probably not to easy to find on Cyprus), of > > course > > > > > an overpressure valve, and the proper length hose. > > > > > Then you might want to sell your steel stages, buy alu40's, buy decent > > regs > > > > > for the stages not the crapy Sherwoods or whatever convoluted crap you > > are > > > > > using now and yes, it is all very expensive! And guess what...there is > > no > > > > > substitute for the right equipment. So you either have the right > > equiment > > > > > and dive or you have the bullshit equipment and die. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > THOMAS > > > > > > > > > > > >Im so much worried that i got no redundancy for my wings. Since > > water is > > > > > > >quite warm here i always > > > > > > >dive in a 5mm wet suit. So what's Dir in this case ? Pls don't > > answer to > > > > > > >me " get a Dry Suit " > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, "get a dry suit" is quite probably the right answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > Manos, I don't know what you are calling "quite warm" water. 5mm > > neoprene > > > > > > wetsuit is suitable for what we in Texas consider fairly cold water > > (say, > > > > > > down to 65 F / 18 C or so). > > > > > > > > > > > > I am told by knowledgeable local divers that drysuits are suitable > > for all > > > > > > water temperatures, given only a careful choice of thermal > > undergarments. > > > > > > At least one company makes a drysuit that they advertise as being > > > > > > specifically intended for warm water diving. > > > > > > > > > > > > >With empty wings at 35 meters i try to deploy a lift back and winch > > my > > > > > > >self up. Although it > > > > > > >worked it proved to be physical demanding and my air consumption > > was at > > > > > > >its maximum. > > > > > > > > > > > > This sounds like a good emergency procedure rehearsal, but it also > > sounds > > > > > > like you are dangerously overweighted. Given that you were wearing > > a 5mm > > > > > > neoprene wetsuit, that probably requires close to 20 lbs / 9 kg of > > lead at > > > > > > the surface, that had lost half its buoyancy due to compression at > > depth, > > > > > > this is perhaps not surprising. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > > -- > > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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