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From: "Paul Harris" <paul.r.harris@te*.ne*>
To: "'Kevin Connell'" <kevin@nw*.co*>, <trey@ne*.co*>
Cc: "'Sean T. Stevenson'" <ststev@un*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: balanced rig, proper weighting and buoyancy
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:20:03 -0000
Hi Kevin, 
hope you're well.

I have been using up to now, a 200gsm Thinsulate, Thermal undies 
(synthetic not cotton) and Argon. All of that under a DUI CF200.

I've not been cold, but neither would I say that I've ever felt hot,
except pre-dive.

My last dive was not that long, 60 mins in about 7 deg quarry water. 
The last half hour was scootering, so fairly inactive.  
I was 'comfortable' at the end of that.

I have just go a DUI 400 gsm thinsulate which I have yet to try out.


> The C-4 400g doesn't cut it for me in cold water on long (2hrs+) 
> dives.   What are those crazy guys over across the pond using 
> the in the 
> cold caves?
> 
> I've been adding capilene underneath, and it doesn't seem to 
> help alot.
> 
> At 05:44 AM 1/17/2000 -0500, Trey wrote:
> >If you are suing a weightbelt with a drysuit, you need it under the
> >harness so that it can not escape by itself. In this case there is no
> >dire speed need to ditch it  . DUI has a suspender 
> arnagement for this
> >as well which makes it more comfortable and keeps the weight 
> from riding
> >down on the hips so much - more of a single tank scheme.
> >
> >          Usually, one uses C-4 and steel tanks with a light 
> and maybe a
> >5 lb steel backplate in salt water to balance the rig. Some insist on
> >slamming on the extra insulation which defeats the C-4 and is then
> >needed to stay warm , desptie Navy tests to the contrary, 
> and those guys
> >generaly need extra weight.
> >
> >           I use nothing next to my skin other than the 
> Thinsulate , and
> >nothing on top of that.
> >
> >Kevin Connell wrote:
> > >
> > > Sean, good post -
> > >
> > > Only thing I might contend with here:  You made the point 
> about ditching a
> > > weightbelt, and in the same sentence mentioned a drysuit:
> > >
> > > I don't believe a weightbelt is appropriate with a drysuit.
> > >
> > > My impression is:
> > > The ditchable weight is only necessary if you don't have 
> redundant lift
> > > (drysuit & wings)
> > >
> > > At 02:30 PM 1/16/2000 -0800, Sean T. Stevenson wrote: 
> lots of good stuff
> > > except:
> > > >occur, you can still remedy it in a few seconds, you 
> have the drysuit
> > > >as backup, and even if that had failed, provided your 
> rig was balanced
> > > >in the first place a gentle kick is all that is required 
> to halt your
> > > >descent.  I would only wear the belt on the outside if 
> the ability to
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------
> > >   Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*>
> > >
> > >   NW Labor Systems, Inc
> > >   http://www.nwls.com
> > >
> > >   There was no year zero.  Welcome
> > >   back to the (still) 20th century and
> > >   second millenium.
> > >
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> ----------------------------------
>   Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*>
> 
>   NW Labor Systems, Inc
>   http://www.nwls.com
> 
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>   second millenium.
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