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Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 16:23:43 -0800
From: Bill Anderson <banders@hc*.co*>
To: The Shadow <neptunusrox@ho*.co*>
Subject: Re: dui rockboots and hypocrites
I went to 5th D last week as well. They have all what GUE or DIR folks
would call stroke gear.

I think there are some very valid questions here, that should be
addressed.

I spoke to one of the fellows (forget his name) at 5th D, and he tried
pushing me toward the PDIC course, which I dont want. My questions about
GUE training went mostly unanswered. It was rather disturbing to me, as
I am in the sales business, and normally this type of tactic is called
"Bait and Switch". It is considered tacky at best, and is illegal at
worst.

I also found it kind of amusing to see very little Halcyon or DIR gear
in a shop where DIR and GUE are supposed to be based.

To be honest, Andrew may be a very good diver, but I think I will make
my purchases, and seek training elsewhere.

Bill Anderson

The Shadow wrote:
> 
> andrew, i find it very amusing that you could be so critical about some
> other agency and make it so public on this list. you should clean up your
> own back door steps first. you being a gue and dir type instructor and you
> don't even practice what you teach. you teach your students to non dir ways
> when you have the knowledge and power to teach them the correct ways from
> the start. instead you teach them a ssi course and pdic course because they
> tout buying all the wrong gear from you in their courses. by teaching it
> that way you can sell way more gear and then your customers can spend more
> money with you when they want to dir. i see your customers at les davies
> pier doing the open water dives in stroke gear. i also see your store
> functions all the stroke gear you sell your customers after they're
> certified. is this personal choice or does this just make you more money
> like the other stores around your area regardless of which agency they
> choose to teach by? i also see you use deep air when your store goes on
> trips to sechelt b.c. canada. using deep air is so strokish and when you do
> it with customers that were up partying until the wee hours really kind of
> makes the effects even better. maybe this is what ssi or pdic teaches
> because i'm sure that gue and dir doesn't include this kind of behavior. or
> is this another case of personal choice? i in know way am attacking gue or
> dir. i think this way of diving, is the future of diving, but i think being
> a hypocrite is even a lower form of life than being a padi instructor. at
> least most of them don't know any better. gee why are you so bitter against
> padi, did they flunk you in one of their instructor courses?
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