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From: "MHK" <mhkane@pr*.ne*>
To: <Jsuw@ao*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Ontario Shipwreck Legislation
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 15:32:51 -0800
Guys,

I agree that this is very important no matter what side of the fence you are
sitting on.  And while we all enjoy a good flame war now and again  :-) this
issue transcends the flames.  It effects all of us.

To that end, and I know Gary Gentile has ruffled a few of the feathers of
people in this group.  But you have to give him credit respecting his
efforts against the US Govt. vis-a-vis the Monitor.

In the same vain Gary and I have teamed up to fight the Canadian Govt. in
fighting this issue.  We have hired local council and to date have spent
nearly $7,000 of our own money to fight this issue.

In short, if you want a more detailed account you can e-mail me privately
and I'll expand, the Canadian Govt. is taking the position that THEY have
the unrestricted right to designate a shipwreck as * historical * and thus
subject to Govt. control.  The legislation provides for no oversight, no
public input, and complete Govt. control.  The 2 shipwrecks that we have
taken issue with are the Hamilton and the Scourge.  They are wrecks from the
War of 1812 and sit in ~ 300' in Lake Ontario.

We plan on filing suit shortly.  Public outcry is of the utmost importance.
In fact we have a few locals helping us out with media attention and the
lawyer we hired will be generating public support as soon as practical from
a legal strategic perspective.

This might be one of those issues that we can actually help each other out
for a change.

Let me know if you need more info.

Regards


> FYI.
>
> I just received this note, second or third hand, regarding proposed
> legislation in Ontario, Canada.
>
> JS
>
> ---------------------
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> There is a Legislation being proposed in Ontario, that can limit and even
> possibly eliminate diving on many on the shipwrecks there.  This bill
means
> anyone diving in Ontario will require a license to dive on any shipwreck.
> There is no mention of cost but the thing that scares me is that Michigan
> legislature may get some bright ideas about doing the same thing here!!
>
> If you wish to read the proposed law it can be found at :
>
> http://www.ontla.on.ca/Documents/StatusofLegOUT/b013_e.htm
>
>
> Here are a couple of email addresses:   the first is the MPP (Member of
> Provincial Parliament)  who proposed this bill and the second is the
Minister
> of the Environment for whom he works...
>
> barrett@no*.on*.ca*
>
> clement@ti*.tc*.ne*
>
> Many are drafting letters to these people with the contents covering some
of
> the topics below:
>
> 1: Divers being left out of the process.. not even shop owners were
contacted.
>
> 2: Interference where it's not needed -someone just trying to make a name
for
> themselves -at our expense.
>
> 3: Undefined terms of reference within the act (read the part on silt!!)
>
> 4: Vague references to who and what will be allowed, and passing their own
> penalties as they see fit
>
> 5: And being state side I also added in Tourism. (heck if they make us buy
> many more permits and such why bother...)
>
> Anyway this is something I am really perusing since I do a lot of diving
in
> Canada.  I don't want someone telling me where, what, when, and how I can
> dive.  So if nothing else Pass this along to someone who may have an
> interest, or who takes alot of students and friends into Canada to dive.
>
> This is very important to all of us as divers!!!!!
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