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From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 13:34:56 -0500
To: Bill Wolk <BillWolk@ea*.ne*>
CC: Sean Cary <smcary@mi*.co*>, Gilldiver@ao*.co*,
     Techdiver
Subject: Re: Legalities of purging someone
Bill, back on the subject that started this sidebar, I was testing a new
rebreather this weekend and I started remembering all of the other
reasons why I used the reg instead of the mouth.

If I take a breath of oxygen from the reg and then do a "rescue" breath,
I am not delivering "95%" as some dumb asshole said on here , I am
delivering about 45%, but that is not the problem, the problem is that
the reason I have lost the percentage is that now I have "decoed" out
nitrogen into my lungs, along with water vapor and CO2. 

Anytime you do a "rescue" breath you are giving  the victim a CO2 blast,
a water vapor blast, and whatever else is differentiated out depending
on what you are breathing, and all of this is just to find a way to
argue with me , not any effort to do the right thing.

You know , the thing that really pisses me off about a jerk like that
Karan is that I have a ton of information, and when we deal with
subjects and not with fucking with me, I can access that information and
reproduce it. She got me so pissed off that I forgot the years of
rebreather use and just reacted to her bullshit.

Next time they get the uncut version first, and we move on to the
information immediately.

Knowing what we konw about rebreathers and staying alive and the risks
of rereathers, listening to a complete asshole like karen is criminal.
Hypoxia is a serious condition with permanent repercussions, and this
asshole has no buiness getting on here and distracting people from the
truth with her crap.

The fact is she and those like her and the strokes she represents are
what is killing people and diving in my opinion. One of the training
agencies just waxed another one in a deep air class this weekend - those
agencies are the sources of the bullshit that people like karen come up
with on here .

ill Wolk wrote:
> 
> On11/13/99 10:51 AM, Sean Cary wrote:
> 
> >That's why we need a "loser pays" tort reform law passed...it would cut down
> >on the bullshit lawsuits that we all face.  Here in Fla at least we just had
> >some laws passed that at least, limit the liability a business or person
> >pay...
> >
> >Sean Cary
> 
> Sean -
> 
> You're wrong about this -- "loser pays" systems just screw the little
> guy, insulate the big guy from responsibility, and do nothing to help the
> vast majority of us in the middle, like all small businesses.  I'd be
> happy to say more about it off the list since I don't want to subject
> everyone else to an off-topic discussion.
> 
> Although good samaritan laws vary from state to state, almost everything
> that's been said on the list about dive club liability is flat out wrong,
> starting with the fact that dive masters don't usually fall into the
> "professional" exception (it requires a 3-4 year degree).
> 
> The only people who have gotten it right are Al Marvelli and George, as
> usual.
> 
> Best regards --
> 
> Bill
> 
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