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From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 13:18:48 -0500
To: bigvon@be*.ne*
CC: "Robbins, Dave I" <dave.robbins@ba*.co*.uk*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Its about talking big, george.
Bill, this is another of your very reasonable and articulate comments.
Look, guy, the fun is over. You are not amusing anymore, you are
pathetic. I think Bill Mee scored another bullseye in his analsyis of
the situation.

I'm going back to ignoring you like I did before - there is no danger
now that anyone will be negatively influenced by you on these lists, and
I will bet that in person that risk is also zero.

bigvon@be*.ne* wrote:
> 
> So  what you are saying George, is only the WKPP women have balls enough to
make the
> dive?
> 
> kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote:
> 
> > Big Dick - I just talked to one of the WKPP women who did that Ozark
> > dive. Here is what she said - "double 80's at best"  - "300 profile"
> > "you'd have to wallow in the mud to get even 340" - "we all used
> > aluminum 40's for deco" - "the water is freezing at the bottom" - " we
> > did 20 minutes for most of these dive and at most 30 but the depth is
> > not what that guy is saying" - etc, etc.
> >
> > Busted as full of shit again. As Bill Mee so eloquently put it - u'r an
> > idiot.
> >
> > bigvon@be*.ne* wrote:
> > >
> > > Dave,
> > > Over 300 feet for longer than a 10 or 15 minute bounce dive.
> > >
> > > The only necessity for the redundant BC is to offset the gas requirements.
> > > Really it is never used unless in an emergency. I have never used it for
real
> > > but we have practiced using it from deep dives.
> > > Just flip the BC over and place it over the bolts as you do your primary
B.C.
> > > I loop a small loop of small bungie over the bottom bolt before I
assemble the
> > > harness. This loop is placed over the  power inflator mechanism to secure
it at
> > > your right waist. There is no hose run to the inflator. Just orally
inflate if
> > > needed.
> > >
> > > "Robbins, Dave I" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Von,
> > > > I'm confused here,
> > > > would you classify the Britannic as 'intermediate' ocean ?
> > > >
> > > > How much deeper do you go before switching over to the 'Von' system? How
> > > > deep is deep?
> > > > Do you have a web site where I can learn about this system ?
> > > > I dive in cold, low viz English Channel with strong tides and shipping
> > > > lanes, DIR has served me very well, but it sounds like I could improve
by
> > > > adopting some of your techniques?
> > > > Many thanks,
> > > > D.
> > > >
> > > > Von wrote>>
> > > >
> > > > > George
> > > > > you STILL do not get it.
> > > > > Our little discussion centers around your alleged DIR  technique in
deep
> > > > > ocean
> > > > > dives, nothing less and nothing more. (In spite of your constant
whining).
> > > > <snip>
> > > > > By the way I agree with DIR in caves and intermediate ocean. But for
deep
> > > > > dives.
> > > > > sorry you gotta be safe.
> > > > > Von
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > <snip>
> > > >
> > > > > > Why is it that the WKPP has thousands of man dive hours of long
range
> > > > > > deep mixed gas cave exploration dives without incident and the same
guys
> > > > > > can go smoke the Britannic and film inside like it was a swimming
pool
> > > > > > and the rest of the big mouthed strokes out there just can't get
that
> > > > > > job done?
> > > > > >
> > > > <snip>
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