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From: "Sean Cary" <smcary@mi*.co*>
To: <bdi@wh*.ne*>
Cc: "Aquanaut Mail" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Icy water diving and SPG placement
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 11:45:44 -0500
Oh, I don't know I think it was the stick it in my butt crack with a much
long HP hose line...  :-)

There would not be ANY reason for someone to do that (Dave Sutton, could you
surmise a reason??)...  I know I'm picking on Dave, but you were just such a
ripe target and you went away SO quickly!

So using my superior intellect, honed by years of reading the TV guide, and
doing the crossword puzzle in the Palm Beach Post...I concluded that he was
joking.

OR it could be that I got SEVEN whole hours of uninterrupted, blissful sleep
since my wife took the baby to visit Grandma! It's amazing how vivid your
hallucinations get when you thrive on 2-3 hours of sleep for 3 weeks...  :-)

Sean Cary

To Err Is Human
To Forgive Divine
Neither Is My Policy

----- Original Message -----
From: <bdi@wh*.ne*>
To: Sean Cary <smcary@mi*.co*>
Cc: Aquanaut Mail <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: Icy water diving and SPG placement


> At 10:06  9/11/99 , Sean Cary wrote:
> >Blly, it was a joke, tounge in cheek, a gag etc...you need a few
Fosters...
> >:-)
>
> Sean, I gotta admit I couldn't tell that he was joking.
> How did you spot it? I need to learn the clues.
>
> best rgrds      billyw
>
> Oh, for the record, most folks here drink VB
> (Victoria Bitter). Fosters, yechhh! We export
> that.
>
>
> >Sean
> >
> >To Err Is Human
> >To Forgive Divine
> >Neither Is My Policy
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <bdi@wh*.ne*>
> >To: Aquanaut Mail <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> >Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 5:05 AM
> >Subject: Re: Icy water diving and SPG placement
> >
> >
> > > At 11:23  8/11/99 , Michael J. Black wrote:
> > > >My preference is to not clip the SPG to my left hip or
> > > >chest D-rings.  I prefer to tuck the SPG on a long
> > > >hose
> > > >into my butt crack.  That's right, between my legs, in
> > > >the butt crack, which cradles the thing nicely, and I
> > > >know where it is at all times by feel.  I often have
> > > >to reach for the SPG (which is mounted to a console, that
> > > >has a compass, knife, scissors, computer, slate, depth
> > > >gauge, pencil) mainly to read my compass.  My usual
> > > >diving is in freshwater lakes in Wisconsin, with poor
> > > >visibility (yesterday vis was 3 feet in Lake Mendota,
> > > >Madison, WI) and I rely on my compass for underwater
> > > >navigation on a regular basis.
> > >
> > > The original question was about the placement of the SPG
> > > in a system called DIR. The enquirer wanted to know, within
> > > that system, where other DIR divers clipped their SPG.
> > >
> > > There is no console in DIR, Michael, for the simple reason
> > > that consoles drag, scrape and get in the way - even when
> > > they are clipped off. They trap line. And they place an untoward
> > > strain on the hp hose. Further, they are impossible to mount
> > > in a streamlined fashion so that information can be read at
> > > a glance without having to unclip and/or handle them first.
> > >
> > > As you have discovered, you have to go to ridiculous extremes
> > > just to carry the thing in an out of the way place. In your case,
> > > by keeping it as far from its intended place of use as you could
> > > think of - and on a long hp hose to boot! This is the height
> > > of inconvenience and inefficiency. Esp. considering your compass
> > > (which you say you use regularly) is attached to it. Michael,
> > > that's like keeping the speedometer in the trunk, no?
> > >
> > > The DIR system on the other hand, enables the SPG to be read
> > > at a glance and keeps the diver tight, tucked in and stream-
> > > lined -  which is a distinct benefit when moving through the
> > > water, whether swimming, in current or scootering, or negotiating
> > > tight spots, whether in caves or wrecks.
> > >
> > > Those other things you have attached to your console would be
> > > more manageable and accessible if you put the depth gauge
> > > (and the computer if you must) on your wrist, the cutters on
> > > your belt, wrist mount the compass (on a piece of bungy if you
> > > like to swim with it held out in front of you) or put it with
> > > the other stuff in your pocket.
> > >
> > > >Looking at some of the other postings on icy water
> > > >diving, it appears that more than one system works for
> > > >different people.
> > >
> > > No-one has ever been able to explain anything other
> > > than DIR as a 'system'. So as far as diving is concerned,
> > > there is only one 'system'. And what you're diving is a mess.
> > >
> > > >   And isn't that what diving is
> > > >about, using what works best for you.
> > >
> > > Michael, you have yet to discover what works best for you.
> > > You've hung nine separate items (that's 9 - count 'em!) off
> > > a long hp hose to create one of the all time great gear fuck-ups.
> > > And by way of proof, look at the assinine way you have to dive
> > > it - with the whole shebang sitting in the crack of your ass!
> > >
> > > rgrds billyw
> > >
> > > >   One final opinion,
> > > >regarding dry gloves.  I have used the Viking cuff
> > > >ring system for years, with over 200 dives using the
> > > >5-finger latex gloves.  The times I have had a
> > > >substan-
> > > >tial leak are so few, that I strongly recommend it to
> > > >others.  Viking does not pay me to say this.  Safe
> > > >diving, everyone.
> > >
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