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From: "Sean Cary" <smcary@mi*.co*>
To: <bdi@wh*.ne*>, "Aquanaut Mail" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Icy water diving and SPG placement
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 18:06:37 -0500
Blly, it was a joke, tounge in cheek, a gag etc...you need a few Fosters...
:-)

Sean

To Err Is Human
To Forgive Divine
Neither Is My Policy

----- Original Message -----
From: <bdi@wh*.ne*>
To: Aquanaut Mail <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 5:05 AM
Subject: Re: Icy water diving and SPG placement


> At 11:23  8/11/99 , Michael J. Black wrote:
> >My preference is to not clip the SPG to my left hip or
> >chest D-rings.  I prefer to tuck the SPG on a long
> >hose
> >into my butt crack.  That's right, between my legs, in
> >the butt crack, which cradles the thing nicely, and I
> >know where it is at all times by feel.  I often have
> >to reach for the SPG (which is mounted to a console, that
> >has a compass, knife, scissors, computer, slate, depth
> >gauge, pencil) mainly to read my compass.  My usual
> >diving is in freshwater lakes in Wisconsin, with poor
> >visibility (yesterday vis was 3 feet in Lake Mendota,
> >Madison, WI) and I rely on my compass for underwater
> >navigation on a regular basis.
>
> The original question was about the placement of the SPG
> in a system called DIR. The enquirer wanted to know, within
> that system, where other DIR divers clipped their SPG.
>
> There is no console in DIR, Michael, for the simple reason
> that consoles drag, scrape and get in the way - even when
> they are clipped off. They trap line. And they place an untoward
> strain on the hp hose. Further, they are impossible to mount
> in a streamlined fashion so that information can be read at
> a glance without having to unclip and/or handle them first.
>
> As you have discovered, you have to go to ridiculous extremes
> just to carry the thing in an out of the way place. In your case,
> by keeping it as far from its intended place of use as you could
> think of - and on a long hp hose to boot! This is the height
> of inconvenience and inefficiency. Esp. considering your compass
> (which you say you use regularly) is attached to it. Michael,
> that's like keeping the speedometer in the trunk, no?
>
> The DIR system on the other hand, enables the SPG to be read
> at a glance and keeps the diver tight, tucked in and stream-
> lined -  which is a distinct benefit when moving through the
> water, whether swimming, in current or scootering, or negotiating
> tight spots, whether in caves or wrecks.
>
> Those other things you have attached to your console would be
> more manageable and accessible if you put the depth gauge
> (and the computer if you must) on your wrist, the cutters on
> your belt, wrist mount the compass (on a piece of bungy if you
> like to swim with it held out in front of you) or put it with
> the other stuff in your pocket.
>
> >Looking at some of the other postings on icy water
> >diving, it appears that more than one system works for
> >different people.
>
> No-one has ever been able to explain anything other
> than DIR as a 'system'. So as far as diving is concerned,
> there is only one 'system'. And what you're diving is a mess.
>
> >   And isn't that what diving is
> >about, using what works best for you.
>
> Michael, you have yet to discover what works best for you.
> You've hung nine separate items (that's 9 - count 'em!) off
> a long hp hose to create one of the all time great gear fuck-ups.
> And by way of proof, look at the assinine way you have to dive
> it - with the whole shebang sitting in the crack of your ass!
>
> rgrds billyw
>
> >   One final opinion,
> >regarding dry gloves.  I have used the Viking cuff
> >ring system for years, with over 200 dives using the
> >5-finger latex gloves.  The times I have had a
> >substan-
> >tial leak are so few, that I strongly recommend it to
> >others.  Viking does not pay me to say this.  Safe
> >diving, everyone.
>
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