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From: <bdi@wh*.ne*>
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 18:10:10 +1100
To: "Sean Cary" <smcary@mi*.co*>
Subject: Re: Icy water diving and SPG placement
Cc: "Aquanaut Mail" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
At 10:06  9/11/99 , Sean Cary wrote:
>Blly, it was a joke, tounge in cheek, a gag etc...you need a few Fosters...
>:-)

Sean, I gotta admit I couldn't tell that he was joking.
How did you spot it? I need to learn the clues.

best rgrds      billyw

Oh, for the record, most folks here drink VB 
(Victoria Bitter). Fosters, yechhh! We export
that.


>Sean
>
>To Err Is Human
>To Forgive Divine
>Neither Is My Policy
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <bdi@wh*.ne*>
>To: Aquanaut Mail <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 5:05 AM
>Subject: Re: Icy water diving and SPG placement
>
>
> > At 11:23  8/11/99 , Michael J. Black wrote:
> > >My preference is to not clip the SPG to my left hip or
> > >chest D-rings.  I prefer to tuck the SPG on a long
> > >hose
> > >into my butt crack.  That's right, between my legs, in
> > >the butt crack, which cradles the thing nicely, and I
> > >know where it is at all times by feel.  I often have
> > >to reach for the SPG (which is mounted to a console, that
> > >has a compass, knife, scissors, computer, slate, depth
> > >gauge, pencil) mainly to read my compass.  My usual
> > >diving is in freshwater lakes in Wisconsin, with poor
> > >visibility (yesterday vis was 3 feet in Lake Mendota,
> > >Madison, WI) and I rely on my compass for underwater
> > >navigation on a regular basis.
> >
> > The original question was about the placement of the SPG
> > in a system called DIR. The enquirer wanted to know, within
> > that system, where other DIR divers clipped their SPG.
> >
> > There is no console in DIR, Michael, for the simple reason
> > that consoles drag, scrape and get in the way - even when
> > they are clipped off. They trap line. And they place an untoward
> > strain on the hp hose. Further, they are impossible to mount
> > in a streamlined fashion so that information can be read at
> > a glance without having to unclip and/or handle them first.
> >
> > As you have discovered, you have to go to ridiculous extremes
> > just to carry the thing in an out of the way place. In your case,
> > by keeping it as far from its intended place of use as you could
> > think of - and on a long hp hose to boot! This is the height
> > of inconvenience and inefficiency. Esp. considering your compass
> > (which you say you use regularly) is attached to it. Michael,
> > that's like keeping the speedometer in the trunk, no?
> >
> > The DIR system on the other hand, enables the SPG to be read
> > at a glance and keeps the diver tight, tucked in and stream-
> > lined -  which is a distinct benefit when moving through the
> > water, whether swimming, in current or scootering, or negotiating
> > tight spots, whether in caves or wrecks.
> >
> > Those other things you have attached to your console would be
> > more manageable and accessible if you put the depth gauge
> > (and the computer if you must) on your wrist, the cutters on
> > your belt, wrist mount the compass (on a piece of bungy if you
> > like to swim with it held out in front of you) or put it with
> > the other stuff in your pocket.
> >
> > >Looking at some of the other postings on icy water
> > >diving, it appears that more than one system works for
> > >different people.
> >
> > No-one has ever been able to explain anything other
> > than DIR as a 'system'. So as far as diving is concerned,
> > there is only one 'system'. And what you're diving is a mess.
> >
> > >   And isn't that what diving is
> > >about, using what works best for you.
> >
> > Michael, you have yet to discover what works best for you.
> > You've hung nine separate items (that's 9 - count 'em!) off
> > a long hp hose to create one of the all time great gear fuck-ups.
> > And by way of proof, look at the assinine way you have to dive
> > it - with the whole shebang sitting in the crack of your ass!
> >
> > rgrds billyw
> >
> > >   One final opinion,
> > >regarding dry gloves.  I have used the Viking cuff
> > >ring system for years, with over 200 dives using the
> > >5-finger latex gloves.  The times I have had a
> > >substan-
> > >tial leak are so few, that I strongly recommend it to
> > >others.  Viking does not pay me to say this.  Safe
> > >diving, everyone.
> >
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