Mailing List Archive

Mailing List: techdiver

Banner Advert

Message Display

Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 00:27:49 +0200
From: Ingemar Lundgren <ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se*>
To: Chuck Hinchey <chinchey@rj*.co*>
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: A question about who is the mouth
Why don't you unsubscribe then?? George ads loads of useful information to this
list and also a lot of entertainment.  Don't take the words so seriously on this
list.
George ones had an argument with a guy a couple of years ago. This guy tried to
make his argument based on 30 years of diving experience. George said, it does
not matter how long you have been a stroke. That was the end to that discussion.
A real killer. I laughed for hours after that one.

He also had a discussion about poseidon regulators a couple of years ago which
he do not like.  His reason was that he ones walked in on a gay bar and they all
had one.  End of that discussion...
Anybody else that has some classic comments from George?



Hinchey wrote:

> Well put.  I'm sure there are many "lurkers" who agree.  I belong to several
> other technical lists (unrelated to diving) and this is the only one where
> such useless abuse is tolerated.
>
> Chuck Hinchey
> chinchey@rj*.co*
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Sutton [mailto:pilots@na*.ne*]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 6:40 PM
> To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Cc: diverdan@ac*.mo*.ne*
> Subject: Re: A question about who is the mouth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Daniel L. Crawford <diverdan@ac*.mo*.ne*>
> >You have a few brain lesions to many or what?  Sheesh, you come onto the
> >list and start spouting off.  Have you seen a neurologist lately?
>
> Greetings to all,
>
> I've been lurking for a long time and am just sick of
> seeing George and syncophants bullying people. This
> is supposed to be a forum for -informed- and -polite-
> discussion of -technique-, not a pulpit for a few to bully
> others who disagree on a technical basis with the conclusions
> of others, not should it be a forum for -anyone- to stand up and
> shout (rudely at that) that they, and only they, dive according
> to the very word of god and that the rest of us are all worthless
> scum. Boy......
>
> I've been too busy -doing it- to waste time -talking about it-
> but enough is enough. Playground bullies need to be
> put in their places now and then.
>
> I see from your post that you, as well, resort to ad-hominum
> attacks (look it up).  This is generally the last bastion of the
> intellectually bankrupt in conduct of debates: when you cannot
> attack the idea, or present a rational and thoughtful argument
> using well reasoned lines of logical construction the debater
> resorts to attacking the person. It's worth a deduction of points
> in formal debate. Perhaps you should take a course in rhetoric,
> reasoning, and logic. They are available from any local college.
> Should you be willing to offer some technical points for discussion,
> I'll be very happy to debate.
>
> Here is a starting sample of what I expected to see here when I began
> lurking:
>
> Question: Why do NJ Wreck divers all use 1/4 manila reels when the rest of
> the tech diving world uses lighter synthetic line and smaller diameter
> reels?
>
> My answer: Because we do our deco wearing 1/4 inch 3 finger mitts
> and while it is true that a light line is strong enough to hold the diver,
> it is nearly impossible to hold onto the light line for a long deco with
> mitts,
> nor is it possible to tie knots in lighter line with the heavy mitts on. Our
> technique
> for deco if we cannot locate the anchor line is to send up our manila on a
> 50
> pound lift-bag, and then hang from the annchored bag. Plus, we feel that the
> manila, being biodegradable, does not pose as much of a long-lasting
> entanglement
> hazard to other divers who might visit the wreck later as would synthetic
> line since there
> is no practical way to retrieve the line post-deco, so we simply cut it off.
> Lastly,
> we are more-or-less sessile (meaning that we don't move much on the bottom)
> so we do not worry as much as a cave diver might about drag swimming, nor
> since the majority of our diving is not real 'overhead enviromnent' stuff we
> are not as worried about streamlined profile as a cave diver might be".
>
> Now, you get to add -your- comments based on -your- experience, and
> you might learn something from me, and I might learn something from you.
>
> Nice, eh?? You might try it sometime. it's what this list should be -all-
> about.
>
> Answers like "You are an asshole for using such a stupid technique. You
> and all of your Jersey Jerks should be taught by the WKPP guys how
> to -really- dive" is not acceptable. If you tried blue-water diving up here
> using cave techniques, you'd be dead. You -might- survive the fairly
> benign conditions of the summer, but come February when the air temperature
> on the boat is 15, the water is 32, and your gear freezes to a sheet of ice
> while
> you climb the ladder and you'd be toast. (BTW, I guess that 2 years spent in
> the Antarctic doing this stuff means I don't know shit about cold water,
> either...)
>
> Once again, I challenge the _entire group_ to refrain from writing
> what you would not be brave enought to say to a mans face. It's
> a sign of living in a civilized society to play well with others.
>
> Frankly, it's sadly obvious that very few here are divers. The divers
> that I have associated with over the last 25 or so years would be
> _ashamed_ to act like this group.
>
> Dave Sutton
>
> --
> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.
> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
>
> --
> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.
> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.



--
Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.
Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.

Navigate by Author: [Previous] [Next] [Author Search Index]
Navigate by Subject: [Previous] [Next] [Subject Search Index]

[Send Reply] [Send Message with New Topic]

[Search Selection] [Mailing List Home] [Home]