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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 23:43:25 +0200
From: Ingemar Lundgren <ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se*>
To: Dave Sutton <dsutton@re*.or*>
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: a [futile?] attempt at producing useful information
>

It suprises me that after 25 years you have not figured out what type of gloves
to use.Maybe you don't have any proper 5 finger drygloves in the US?  The ones
we use are called Nordic blue (think they are manufactured in sweden).  Xerotech
in UK also makes good drygloves. With the proper type of gloves you can work
with small clips and rubber bands.  No need for suicide clips in coldwater.
You say that your tools are a part of your weight system.  If you drop a heavy
tool what happens then on deco if it is part of your weight system?.

You wrote:
"I do not use a canister light in the NE, as the wire (unless fitted with a
quick-pull
connector) poses an unacceptable hazard for anchor-line wrap during a bailout"

Can you explain this. I fail to see the logic.

As for your tools you come extremely prepared on your dives i must say.
Hammer,crowbar and goddybag on every dive.  Then again in a previous post you
say that you are so heavily laden that you have a hard time swimming. You make
this as an excuse for not stremlining your equipment as you can barley move
anyway.  Your way of diving is very different to mine i must say. I agree that
there is no good way on carrying tools your gear will always be a mess. But
there has to be a limit to the amount of tools you carry on a deep wreck. If you
carry so much that it compromises your safety i would leave it on the deck.





>
>
> 4 pound sledge hammer with welded 2 inch diameter D ring on top.
> This attached to a 6 pound curved hip weight by truck-tire inner tube
> band, attached this way it does not hang below the plane of the divers
> belly when swimming. I can swim -4 inches- over the bottom and nothing
> drags on the bottom rigged this way. Once detached for use, the hammer
> is re-clipped to a dogsnap on the backplate, since it's near impossible to
> reattach it to the weight since working rubber bands with mitts on is
> nearly impossible.
>
> Crowbar: This resides attached to left side of doubles with rubber truck
> tire bands, hook at top and hook turned backward to reduce snagging hazard.
> A small D ring is also welded to the bar, so it can go up on a lift-bag once
> removed and used to detach artifacts.
>
> The above two items are considered part of my weighting system. They add
> zero total weight to my rig, and are there 100% of the time. Added utility,
> zero penalty. See? You can have your cake and eat it too.
>
> Goodie Bag: Attached to light along with 'working knife' and backup light.
> This system allows the diver to 'slat-off' the light and all entangling
> goodie bag
> items, etc., should he need to bail from an entanglement. I do not use a
> canister light in the NE, as the wire (unless fitted with a quick-pull
> connector)
> poses an unacceptable hazard for anchor-line wrap during a bailout. The
> 'working knife' on the light allows access to a knife that is 'close at
> hand'
> but tis of course is a disposable system and there are two other knives
> elsewhere: One on forearm, and one on inner thigh. These are small
> commercial
> fishing knives and are 'razor' sharp.
>
> Of course all of this is going to go out the window in a few weeks as I put
> my
> Mark 15 rebreather into 'The loop".  The things is just too small to bungie
> a
> crowbar onto the side, and I'm going to be carrying side-mounts of bailout
> gas
> where I normally would carry tools.
>
> Cave-diving? Nope. Wrreck diving? Yup. Universal technique?
> It is anywhere serious wreck diving is practiced.
>
> PS: we -need- more guys that don't believe in artifact hunting up here.
> it's that more for the rest of us "Wreck Rapers"....  Want to know some
> stuff about the safe and legal use of explosives? Now -thats- technical
> diving. Been there, done that.
>
> Seriously, when I serve dinner at my house the first thing the guests notice
> is that the china des not match. It's because it's been collected from about
> a dozen wrecks over the last 25 years.
>
> Dave Sutton
>
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