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--------------1ED7F876A314B08B72F462E3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have assembled some of Dave Suttons most entertaining posts. In 3 days he posted 51 email messages so this is only a selection of my favorites. Dave, i must say that your ideas of how to conduct technical diving safely is incredibly ill thought out and stupid. You are by far the worst example i have seen on this list ever. You are also very good at insulting people and making personal attacks. Some of the worst personal attacks i have seen on this list actually. You then go on to accuse other list members of being psychopaths and insane. You do not look to good here. BEST OF DAVE SUTTON POSTS; The WKPP does -very- specialized diving. So do we. Ours is not greater , nor is it lesser. -Some- of the techniques are interchangable, but -most- are not. I'm not going to sit and let George and his syncophants run roughshod over the experience that we have gained in our decades of experience and experimentation. Just come on up and try your gin-clear water techniques while diving in faceplate vis, 34 degree temps, 10 foot seas while deco, and wearing 3 finger dry mitts. If you tried blue-water diving up here using cave techniques, you'd be dead. You -might- survive the fairly benign conditions of the summer, but come February when the air temperature on the boat is 15, the water is 32, and your gear freezes to a sheet of ice while you climb the ladder and you'd be toast. What we know as 'technical diving' is mainly a synthesis of NE Wreck Diving techniques I'm snag-free. But I do not need to be a sleek swimmer. Ever try to swim sleekly carrying a crowbar and sledgehammer?? Thus my 1/4 inch manila reel and poney bottle were never an issue from a drag standpoint. You can brace your feet against a passenger liner and push it off from the dock because although the mass is large, the friction is low. Once moving it's not an issue. I've tried it and it works. I can swim just fine. It's a matter of degree. am quite comfortable swimming from, say the stern of the San Diego to the box, diving, hannging, and then surface swimming back to the boat. If I get behind the granny line, I'm toast. But on the good side, I'd say that I have about a 99% reliability factor for finding the anchor line on those dives where I plan to use it. Carrying WKPP sidemounts to the Doria for an inexperienced diver is just asking for trouble. Talk about drag and mass I personally do not use a BC at all Question: Why do NJ Wreck divers all use 1/4 manila reels when the rest of the tech diving world uses lighter synthetic line and smaller diameter reels? My answer: Because we do our deco wearing 1/4 inch 3 finger mitts and while it is true that a light line is strong enough to hold the diver, it is nearly impossible to hold onto the light line for a long deco with mitts,nor is it possible to tie knots in lighter line with the heavy mitts on. Our techniquefor deco if we cannot locate the anchor line is to send up our manila on a 50pound lift-bag, and then hang from the annchored bag. .. --------------1ED7F876A314B08B72F462E3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> I have assembled some of Dave Suttons most entertaining posts. In 3 days he posted 51 email messages so this is only a selection of my favorites. Dave, i must say that your ideas of how to conduct technical diving safely is incredibly ill thought out and stupid. You are by far the worst example i have seen on this list ever. You are also very good at insulting people and making personal attacks. Some of the worst personal attacks i have seen on this list actually. You then go on to accuse other list members of being psychopaths and insane. You do not look to good here. <BR> <B></B> <P><B>BEST OF DAVE SUTTON POSTS;</B> <P>The WKPP does -very- <BR>specialized diving. So do we. Ours is not greater , nor is it lesser. -Some- <BR>of the techniques are interchangable, but -most- are not. I'm not going <BR>to sit and let George and his syncophants run roughshod over <BR>the experience that we have gained in our decades of experience <BR>and experimentation. Just come on up and try your gin-clear water <BR>techniques while diving in faceplate vis, 34 degree temps, 10 foot <BR>seas while deco, and wearing 3 finger dry mitts. <P>If you tried blue-water diving up here <BR>using cave techniques, you'd be dead. You -might- survive the fairly <BR>benign conditions of the summer, but come February when the air temperature <BR>on the boat is 15, the water is 32, and your gear freezes to a sheet of ice <BR>while you climb the ladder and you'd be toast. <P>What we know as 'technical diving' is <BR>mainly a synthesis of NE Wreck Diving techniques <P>I'm snag-free. But I do not need to be a sleek swimmer. <BR>Ever try to swim sleekly carrying a crowbar and sledgehammer?? Thus <BR>my 1/4 inch manila reel and poney bottle were never an issue from a drag <BR>standpoint. You can brace your feet against a passenger <BR>liner and push it off from the dock because although the mass is large, <BR>the friction is low. Once moving it's not an issue. I've tried it and it <BR>works. <P>I can swim just fine. It's a matter of degree. am quite comfortable swimming from, say the stern of the San Diego to the box, diving, hannging, and then surface swimming back to the boat. <P>If I get behind the granny line, I'm toast. But on the good side, I'd say <BR>that I have about a 99% reliability factor for finding the anchor line on those <BR>dives where I plan to use it. <P>Carrying WKPP sidemounts to the Doria for an inexperienced diver is just asking for trouble. Talk about <BR>drag and mass <P>I personally do not use a BC at all <BR> <P>Question: Why do NJ Wreck divers all use 1/4 manila reels when the rest of <BR>the tech diving world uses lighter synthetic line and smaller diameter <BR>reels? <P>My answer: Because we do our deco wearing 1/4 inch 3 finger mitts <BR>and while it is true that a light line is strong enough to hold the diver, <BR>it is nearly impossible to hold onto the light line for a long deco with <BR>mitts,nor is it possible to tie knots in lighter line with the heavy mitts on. Our <BR>techniquefor deco if we cannot locate the anchor line is to send up our manila on a <BR>50pound lift-bag, and then hang from the annchored bag. <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <P> <P>. <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> </HTML> --------------1ED7F876A314B08B72F462E3-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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