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Ted, "chicken" or "egg"? You took my part of the class on the Halcyon,
we discussed this. 

I do not think it is a good idea to let these guys of the hook on the
whole picture here. The final mechanism of the death is the end result
of eveything that went before, and the lack of a second chance is again
the final step.

I will tell you in no uncertain terms that I think these people up there
are the most incompetent boobs in diving. They are dumb, ignorant,
misinformed, self-designated macho types whom I would not allow to dive
anywhere near one of my operations. I have never ever seen worse divers,
or bigger idiots, harder heads, or a worse track record.

They are the ones who are getting people killed, they are the ones who
are influencing the otherwise smart people into doing dumb things, they
are the ones who are ruining diving for all of us, especially for guys
like you who are in the business and trying to do the right thing.

Stop coddling the idiots. The entire operation up there is bottom of the
barrel, and that is not only my opinion, that is a fact that anyone and
everyone from the the rankest neophyte to "Nightline" can see with no
problem.

These guys need a swift kick in the ass. I would like to see one of
these big timers get on here and tell me the value of anything they are
doing, and have it make sense - that is IMPOSSIBLE.


Ted Green wrote:
> 
>     George,
>        We are on the same page! I am in agreement with you in
> regard to a "clean rig" and teach the concept and have never
> posted otherwise. However the risk of a CO2 hit is very real
> regardless of what your wearing and needed to be addressed.
> It is not enough to keep harping on the gear configuration. I see
> people every year on the charter boat who have bought your tape,
> configured their gear and think they are "doing it right", only to do
> stupid shit like Charlie and nearly kill themselves because they
> think it's only about the gear. You may survive in spite of a stupid
> gear configuration; you will not survive a Co2 hit regardless of what
> you are wearing!!!
> 
> Ted
> 
> From:                   kirvine@sa*.ne*
> 
> > Ted, why don't you try telling them why diving a clean rig makes diving
> > easy? Explain to them that diving with the kitchen sink is what leads to
> > "CO2 buildup". Explain to them that running with me on your back is a
> > lot harder than running with me not on your back.
> >
> > Or do you want me to explain that to you first, and then have you do it?
> >
> > Again, these guys are putting themselves at such a severe disadvantage
> > that the suprisin thing is how many live, not how many die.
> >
> > Keep telling them they are doing just fine. Keep buying into their bull.
> > The fact is they are runing a marathon cluster up there, and they will
> > continue to do so until they figure out the basics.
> >


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