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.. They (we) just feel that his message would be > more widely accepted if it was packaged better. Is that so hard to > understand? Has in not occurred to you that the soft spoken method IS NOT WORKING. Folks are still doing the same stupid shit over and over...and dieing doing it. It amazes me that there are still some folks who will Argue the config/phiosophy whatever of DIR and AND HAVE NOT DONE A SINGLE DIR DIVE! I have converted folks over who were hard-core strokes (Hi Bob!) ..when shown the validity of the setup they reaize it's right. Even folks who don't dive or do tech see the difference...there was a picture recently of a diver in the a local SCUBA rag here in Fla doing a tech dive, hoses all over, stages on both sides...shit all over the place...my wife saw the picture and said..."What a mess...I'm glad you don't look like that when you do deep dives." You don't even have to be a diver to know its a better cleaner method of diving. It's the present not the package...the message is all that matters. If your ears, eyes and feeling are so delicate that you can't put up with Georges posts...THEN HIT NEXT. It is as simple as that. You have to have an open mind to convert to DIR, not an argument riddent ego. I get your side...but I just don't agree with it. Sean ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Metcalfe <metcalfe@ec*.co*> To: John R. Rose <rose@cs*.sc*.ed*> Cc: <toddl@in*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 9:41 AM Subject: Re: Doria Count? > > > "John R. Rose" wrote: > > > > > - Todd > > > > > > p.s. It's pretty sad that naughty words and abrasiveness get > > > people more agitated than a pile of corpses. It really > > > seems like that would be enough... > > > > > > -- > > > > Yeah Todd, > > > > Unfortuantely, too many get their knickers in a twist over Trey's > > naughty words. In most cases, people are simply arguing with the > > delivery since they are unable to argue convincingly with the content > > of the message. Rather sad, don't you think? > > You're not listening. I don't think that anybody in this thread is > disagreeing with George's message. In fact, it seems that everybody has > said they agree with it. They (we) just feel that his message would be > more widely accepted if it was packaged better. Is that so hard to > understand? An "attack" on George's methods of communication is NOT an > attack on the WKPP, GUE, DIR methods, etc. It is just some people > pointing out that in their opinion the message would be more accepted if > it was put out in a better package. > > If we lose the emotion and defensiveness while we're discussing this > issue, we'd probably get more accomplished. Go ahead and get emotional > when there is an accident, but when it comes time to discuss it, and try > and find solutions you need to drop the emotion and use logic. > > Sincerely, > > -- > Kevin Metcalfe > metcalfe@ec*.co* > Pleasant Hill, CA > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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