For Pete's sakes boys and
> girls, there have been thousands upon thousands upon thousands of dives on
> these
> alternate gear configurations and only a handful of even remotely
verifiable
> (arguably some would add) problems related to them


  Uhhh...isn't ONE death too much?  We've had FOUR deaths here in Fla,
attributed to Bungee wings.  They have more detracting factors then positive
features.  A balanced setup is cleaner, more efficient and much safer...why
would you not just dive the correct tanks, exposure suit etc...what is so
hard to understand about that?

And what exactly kept a diver from escaping an entanglement that a Transpak
or an IQ would have allowed...what is the Transpak diver going to do...push
the eject button, and shoot out of his BC with jet assist?  A harness is a
smooth and clean as it gets, period.  And as Dan said...where was his buddy?

Why would anyone dive with a known failure point when you can eliminate it?
That is what makes a person a stroke.

Sean Cary


----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Volker <dlv@ga*.ne*>
To: Techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; <tgunther@co*.co*>
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 2:33 PM
Subject: RE: More on Doria Deaths


> A halcyon harness is removed by a single buckle.  Its very easy.  And all
> Halcyon divers should be DIR divers, which would mean a buddy would be
there
> to help with any entanglement. Regardless of what BC you wear, it will
> always be easier for a buddy to untangle you, than for you to untangle
> yourself. Halcyon BC'c, configured "properly", are just much less likely
to
> allow entanglement.
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tgunther@co*.co* [mailto:tgunther@co*.co*]
> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 1:54 PM
> To: Dan Volker
> Cc: Techdiver
> Subject: RE: More on Doria Deaths
>
> Dan:
>
> I might also mention that I have seen first-hand a technical diver with a
> Halycyon harness get entangled at depth, and having tried all else, been
> unable
> to disengage himself in order to make an emergency ascent.   Forget where
> his
> buddy was for a moment, and let me ask you this.    If a harness acts in a
> capactity in which it straight-jackets a person into it, is that proof
> enough to
> now ban all Halcyon harnesses from the industry?   Of course not, yet if I
> hadn't come upon this diver he might have died.    Using this kind of
> convoluted
> logic though, Dive-Rite's and OMS's have been castigated over and over
again
> by
> the WKPP.    "We personally saw a person with bungees unable to fully
> inflate
> themselves, must be dangerous stuff" goes the standard line.   "We
> personally
> saw a person with a Dive-Rite and a fault-point quick-release lose his
> double
> tanks, must be dangerous stuff" goes another.    For Pete's sakes boys and
> girls, there have been thousands upon thousands upon thousands of dives on
> these
> alternate gear configurations and only a handful of even remotely
verifiable
> (arguably some would add) problems related to them.     And yet everyone
> elses
> gear is dangeous besides Halcyon's.   It's just nutty.
>
> Tod
>
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