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You don't have to scroll down for my reply:
If you don't like what/how/when or whatever George or anyone else on this
list posts...then hit NEXT.
The funniest thing is that the folks who are the most in need of what is
presented on theses lists...probably are the ones hitting NEXT, because they
are too proud or stubborn to read what comes from the "best of the best".
If you or anyone else can dispute that the folks of the WKPP do on a regular
basis is some of the toughest diving in the world...dives that would scare
the shit out of 99% of the diving public...then do so. Nobody is forcing
you to read about, adopt or dive DIR.
Those of us who have taken the philosophy to heart, realize what those who
have not done so...it is a MUCH better way of diving. And the facts
represent themselves...the deaths that have been occurring on the Doria and
elsewhere could have been prevented with proper equipment, training and
adherence to tenets of the DIR philosophy about buddies and fitness. I'm
sure the families of the dead divers would not want to know that there was a
better/safer way for their deceased to have been diving!
So call me stupid if you want...I'm not. My reading comprehension is at a
level that I can take what I need to be a safer, better diver from what is
presented on theses lists. I do this for a living, so any edge I get is a
great step towards making it to a long retirement. If you don't want to
read Georges replies, whether they be abrasive or abusive...then go to
Rec.Scuba...I'm sure there is a raging debate over Mail Order vs. your local
dive shop there.
Sean Cary
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Metcalfe <metcalfe@ec*.co*>
To: Sean Cary <smcary@mi*.co*>
Cc: Bill Mee <wwm@sa*.ne*>; jccalvin <jccalvin@pa*.ne*>;
<tgunther@co*.co*>; techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: Doria Count?
> Sean Cary wrote:
> >
> > Don't you think he's tried the nice route? I have personally e-mailed
him
> > many times, and ALWAYS get a civil answer with a full explanation. If
you
> > don't want to be slammed, don't defend the ideals he finds criminally
> > stupid...if you don't know what they are...check the archives.
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> I know what George stands for and I don't defend those that he slams.
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> > He walks
> > the walk...so I guess he's more then qualified to talk the talk. Nobody
is
> > forcing you to read his posts, filter them if you find them so
offensive!
> >
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> Sean,
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> You're lack of reading comprehension is astounding. I don't find
> George's posts offensive personally, but I do realize that some people
> do. I was trying to point out the fact that sometimes the message can
> get lost in the style of delivery for some people. I am smart enough to
> overlook the style and see if there is any substance. Not everybody can
> or will.
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> Or maybe you're just a Farm Animal Stupid Dive Shop Monkey (FASDSM) and
> too stupid to realize what I was writing.
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> Sean,
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> I didn't mean the FASDSM comment, I wrote it to make a point. Now let
> me ask you a question. Do you think that had I left it at that, I would
> have made any progress in making my point???
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> Think of it this way. I've run across hundreds of ignorant drivers on
> the road. Just because it's happened hundreds of times, doesn't mean
> that I can't make the 16 year old kid who wasn't taught properly see the
> way we're supposed to share the road. If I call him a stupid F*** head
> though, my chances are probably a lot less.
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> I'll grant you that the top levels of IANDT and TDI are probably a lost
> cause, but the people at my level who might be thinking of tech diving
> are still open game. If they subscribe to techdiver, log in and see the
> screaming that sometimes goes on you _might_ lose them before they get a
> chance to see the message. Some divers like myself will be able to wade
> through the crap and see that the DIR method is very good. Others will
> say "fuck these assholes" and walk down the street the the friendly TDI
> shop. Is that what you want?
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> NOTHING else matters. Because THAT is the reality. It doesn't matter
> how right George is, he's going to lose some percentage due to his
> style. But hey, it's a free country, and George can spread his message
> in whatever manner he chooses. But for him to be surprised and unhappy
> when not everybody follows him is kind of silly.
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> I will say that in the few years I've been reading here, George has
> seemed to mellow a bit. For whatever that's worth.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> --
> Kevin Metcalfe
> metcalfe@ec*.co*
> Pleasant Hill, CA
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