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<<   This forum is not to dicuss me, as you all just love to do, it is to
discuss diving  >>

 Unfortunately Mr. Irvine, you are not consistent in following this advice, and
therefore lose the credulity you might gain.    Perhaps if you just pulled back
a little from your venomous attack of others, and instead laid your sword at the
inappropriate procedures being followed, this request might be taken with more
respect.

 <<  Your pal from the UK is wrong - nobody has to appologize for me   >>

Unfortunately we must.     Your actions and views represent a large portion of
the technical diving community.    Too often though when those views are
expressed to outsiders in an attempt to educate them, your personal reputation
interferes with the progress that might be made.     It's a sad situation, but
unfortunately it exists.

 Respectfully,
Tod


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