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Breathe deep, can't we all just get along...... My response was riddled with sarcasm based on the ridiculousness of the thread. I also have adopted many of the DIR concepts but I also don't consider my rig DIR. Me make video's? would take too much time. I'd rather be diving than shooting videos.... Art. -----Original Message----- From: "Daniel_Smith"@COLPAL.COM [mailto:"Daniel_Smith"@COLPAL.COM] Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 12:18 PM To: techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: RE: If you mess with it, it isn't DIR Ok, haven't we had enough of this already?? Art DIR is a set philosophy by the WKPP divers for the diving and goals that they carry out. Why do people feel like they need a validation from this group. Why do you feel your configuration needs to be called DIR? Jim said it the best, DIR belongs to the WKPP, if you want to start the North East Lobster Diving Configuration for Optimal Diving, you could call it NELDCOD!! and create videos, and argue with people who would say well is it NELDCOD to put the lobster gauge on the bag, or should it be on a lanyard? This discussion is getting ridiculous. Unless you are diving the WHOLE SYSTEM, no matter what your goal of the dive is, you will not be DIR in the eyes of a DIR diver. oh, and Art, I am also a NE wreck diver, I rig my gear as close to Hogarthain as I can, but in no way do I call it DIR, because it is not the WHOLE SYSTEM. From: "Paltz; Art" <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*> AT INTERNET on 05/24/99 11:02 AM To: "Mailing Tech Diver List (E-mail)" <techdiver@aquanaut.com> AT INTERNET@US* cc: (bcc: Daniel Smith/USATC/NA/COLPAL) bcc: Daniel Smith/USATC/NA/COLPAL Subject: RE: If you mess with it, it isn't DIR OK, stirring the pot some more. If you are hunting for NE lobsters (you know, the smart ones with claws....), what is the proper DIR setup? As I think Janet said last week, wearing anything on the wrist is a liability and DEFINITELY not optimal. Considering DIR by definition if I'm not mistaken is minimal and optimal, what do you do with the compass and bottom timer on your wrist? Hum.... Could the answer be a console..... Oh my God, a little bit of logic to the discussion..... Art. -----Original Message----- From: bdi@wh*.ne* [mailto:bdi@wh*.ne*] Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 9:45 AM To: Guy Wittig; techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: Re: If you mess with it, it isn't DIR At 07:44 PM 24/5/99 +1000, Guy Wittig wrote: >Billy >> >>You're right Kev. I believe that on the next space shuttle >>launch, the NASA engineers are going to try putting the engines >>at the top, firing upwards. > > >And without people trying new ideas and living with the adverse comments >from the status-quo NASA would still be using Mercury rockets because they >were simple, clean and functional. Nah. Not powerful enough. The Russians are still lifting bigger payloads with their original rocket motors. Which means they got it right earlier and are still doing it right. > >Not that I approve of consoles, but this is obviously a dumb statement. Possibly, but only from your myopic perspective. Guy, one more time, you can't take DIR, change it, and call it DIR. You can't take an entire system, change a piece of it, and then rely on the continuing integrity of the system. And as far as 'people trying new ideas and living with the adverse comments from the status-quo' goes, why don;t you take a look at the half baked people who get on this list with their ill-conceived ideas to 'improve' a system they clearly don't understand. Not one of them can match the knowledge, experience, ability, safety and achievements of the people who invented DIR. People who, dive some of the most demanding environments in the world, and who, tellingly, dive DIR just the way it is, with none of these so-called 'improvements'. Ever stopped to wonder why? If that doesn't tell you something, nothing will. > >There is always a place for well informed, well thought out innovation. >And >if DIR does not ever take on board innovation then eventually it will become >irrelevent. Says who? rgrds billyw -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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