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From: "Paltz, Art" <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*>
To: "Mailing Tech Diver List (E-mail)" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: If you mess with it, it isn't DIR
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:02:27 -0400
OK, stirring the pot some more.  If you are hunting for NE lobsters (you
know, the smart ones with claws....), what is the proper DIR setup?  As I
think Janet said last week, wearing anything on the wrist is a liability and
DEFINITELY not optimal.  Considering DIR by definition if I'm not mistaken
is minimal and optimal, what do you do with the compass and bottom timer on
your wrist?  Hum....  Could the answer be a console.....  Oh my God, a
little bit of logic to the discussion.....

Art.


		-----Original Message-----
		From:	bdi@wh*.ne* [mailto:bdi@wh*.ne*]
		Sent:	Monday, May 24, 1999 9:45 AM
		To:	Guy Wittig; techdiver@aquanaut.com
		Subject:	Re: If you mess with it, it isn't DIR

		At 07:44 PM 24/5/99 +1000, Guy Wittig wrote:
		>Billy
		>>
		>>You're right Kev. I believe that on the next space shuttle
		>>launch, the NASA engineers are going to try putting the
engines
		>>at the top, firing upwards.
		>
		>
		>And without people trying new ideas and living with the
adverse comments
		>from the status-quo NASA would still be using Mercury
rockets because they
		>were simple, clean and functional.

		Nah. Not powerful enough. The Russians are still lifting 
		bigger payloads with their original rocket motors. Which 
		means they got it right earlier and are still doing it 
		right.

		>
		>Not that I approve of consoles, but this is obviously a
dumb statement.

		Possibly, but only from your myopic perspective.

		Guy, one more time, you can't take DIR, change it, 
		and call it DIR.

		You can't take an entire system, change a piece of 
		it, and then rely on the continuing integrity of the 
		system.

		And as far as 'people trying new ideas and living 
		with the adverse comments from the status-quo' goes,
		why don;t you take a look at the half baked people who 
		get on this list with their ill-conceived ideas to 
		'improve' a system they clearly don't understand.

		Not one of them can match the knowledge, experience, 
		ability, safety and achievements of the people who 
		invented DIR. People who, dive some of the most 
		demanding environments in the world, and who, 
		tellingly, dive DIR just the way it is, with none
		of these so-called 'improvements'.

		Ever stopped to wonder why?

		If that doesn't tell you something, nothing will.

		>
		>There is always a place for well informed, well thought out
innovation.
		>And
		>if DIR does not ever take on board innovation then
eventually it will become
		>irrelevent.

		Says who?

		rgrds     billyw

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