Sean-

No, I strive to be DIR, I have changed my gear and way of thinking 
incredibly since coming across DIR on this list. I hope to achieve DIRdom 
and am working hard in that direction. And I will make it. You know who 
the strokes are, those who are on these lists and still blithely  diving 
independent doubles, bungee wings and will argue these techniques to the 
death. Sometimes literally. This is a stroke, you know that.

You still want to call me a stroke, then I don't think you understand the 
term. Either way, I don't really care what you think, nor do I care if 
other divers strive for strokedom. I do try to spread the word and I 
think I am winning some converts. And these converts are potential DIR 
buddies, right?

 Jim

Sender: Sean M. Cary  Date: 5/21/99 1:44 PM

>>So why do I do it? The fact is that solo deco diving is very dangerous
>>and moves me that much closer to death, which increases the adrenlin rush
>>and improves the dive experience. There is nothing more spine-tingling,
>>sinus clearing and anus clenching than the realization that you have just
>>fucked up and there is absolutely nobody there to help you. Talk about
>>motivation to solve the problem. Talk about a rush.
>
>Jim...wouldn't that make you a STROKE?
>
>Sean
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
>To: Billy Williams <bdi@wh*.ne*>; Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>Date: Friday, May 21, 1999 1:20 PM
>Subject: Re: Redundant & Buddies & DIR
>
>
>>Billy-
>>
>>This is the point I have tried to make over and over and apparently it's
>>very hard for people to understand this.
>>
>>1. Nobody really cares how you config your gear.
>>2. DIR is system. You can't take bits and pieces of DIR and call yourself
>>a DIR diver.
>>
>>Thats all. Personally I like to dive solo, thus I am not a DIR diver. As
>>a solo diver I take 2 devices with me. I do promote DIR and would like to
>>have a DIR partner, but they are hard to find and I find that diving solo
>>is much less stressful when not having to worry about a "mystery buddy".
>>
>>I also firmly believe that a DIR buddy team has a much better chance of
>>surviving an extreme dive than a solo diver. The Navy SEALs understand
>>this, as the core of the teams are the swim buddies. Both come back or
>>neither come back is what's expected of them (to take it to an another
>>extreme).
>>
>>So why do I do it? The fact is that solo deco diving is very dangerous
>>and moves me that much closer to death, which increases the adrenlin rush
>>and improves the dive experience. There is nothing more spine-tingling,
>>sinus clearing and anus clenching than the realization that you have just
>>fucked up and there is absolutely nobody there to help you. Talk about
>>motivation to solve the problem. Talk about a rush.
>>
>>Now DIR also says to "do it right or don't do it at all", so I am not
>>DIR. While my gear is DIR rigged, I'm still not doing it right.
>>
>>The real argument here is "I want to be a same-ocean buddy diver and
>>still call myself DIR" well, you can't and as you have seen from this
>>thread, you won't get away with it...
>>
>>   Jim
>>
>>Sender: Billy Williams  Date: 5/21/99 9:54 AM
>>
>>>At 10:28 PM 20/5/99 -0400, Capt JT wrote:
>>>>Mike
>>>>I agree with you as it is up to the diver as if he sees a need to carry
>it
>>>>..The only reason this thread is going is because one of the WKPP boys
>has
>>>>said you don't need a second BT and then someone disagrees with him.
>>>
>>>JT, you, Susan, bigbird and others have missed the point.
>>>
>>>They can dive with an armload of bottom timers. That's
>>>their business. Who gives a root. But
>>>1) they shouldn't kid themselves that it's DIR.
>>>2) they shouldn't try to convince others that it's DIR.
>>>
>>>When the personal preference crowd like Susan & bigbird
>>>mess with the DIR concept, look what happens, they start
>>>spreading and encouraging ignorant idiocy like this.....
>>>
>>>>"My understanding is that the DIR method includes the
>>>>reduction of clutter and the minimizing of potential
>>>>failure points. Can you really consider a backup BT as
>>>>clutter, or an additional failure point? How are people
>>>>configuring this backup timer on their gear where it is
>>>>considered clutter? I choose not to wear my BT on my
>>>>wrist, but on a console, clipped on the left d ring as
>>>>in DIR. Is this extra 4 inches of console clutter? "
>>>
>>>This person is now claiming that diving with a goddamn
>>>console is DIR!!!!
>>>
>>>If susan just wants to say "I dive with a back-up bottom
>>>timer." That's her business.
>>>
>>>If she wants to tell people that what she's diving is DIR,
>>>she'll get corrected.
>>>
>>>rgds     billyw
>>>
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