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Subject: Re: Redundant & Buddies & DIR
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 21:13:06 -0400
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: "Wrolf Courtney" <wrolf@wr*.ne*>
cc: "Billy Williams" <bdi@wh*.ne*>, "Tech Diver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Wrolf-

You have an axe to grind, therefore your opinions are not valid. What 
does it take for you to understand that DIR is a SYSTEM? If you want to 
take bits and pieces of DIR, then start your own system and call it DIW.

 Jim

Sender: Wrolf Courtney  Date: 5/21/99 3:40 PM

>Much is revealed!
>
>So Jim, like me you usually dive solo, and for the same reasons.
>
>Some points to consider:
>
>The DIR practices are in fact very similar to East Coast diving practices, 
>and
>to non-DIR Florida cave diving practices.
>
>The DIR crowd on the Internet are intolerant of any variation from the DIR
>practices.  They happy to use language that would make their mothers ashamed.
>They have also done the community a great service by providing free
>documentation of the DIR system on the Internet.
>
>Wrolf
>
>Jim Cobb wrote:
>
>> Billy-
>>
>> This is the point I have tried to make over and over and apparently it's
>> very hard for people to understand this.
>>
>> 1. Nobody really cares how you config your gear.
>> 2. DIR is system. You can't take bits and pieces of DIR and call yourself
>> a DIR diver.
>>
>> Thats all. Personally I like to dive solo, thus I am not a DIR diver. As
>> a solo diver I take 2 devices with me. I do promote DIR and would like to
>> have a DIR partner, but they are hard to find and I find that diving solo
>> is much less stressful when not having to worry about a "mystery buddy".
>>
>> I also firmly believe that a DIR buddy team has a much better chance of
>> surviving an extreme dive than a solo diver. The Navy SEALs understand
>> this, as the core of the teams are the swim buddies. Both come back or
>> neither come back is what's expected of them (to take it to an another
>> extreme).
>>
>> So why do I do it? The fact is that solo deco diving is very dangerous
>> and moves me that much closer to death, which increases the adrenlin rush
>> and improves the dive experience. There is nothing more spine-tingling,
>> sinus clearing and anus clenching than the realization that you have just
>> fucked up and there is absolutely nobody there to help you. Talk about
>> motivation to solve the problem. Talk about a rush.
>>
>> Now DIR also says to "do it right or don't do it at all", so I am not
>> DIR. While my gear is DIR rigged, I'm still not doing it right.
>>
>> The real argument here is "I want to be a same-ocean buddy diver and
>> still call myself DIR" well, you can't and as you have seen from this
>> thread, you won't get away with it...
>>
>>    Jim
>>
>> Sender: Billy Williams  Date: 5/21/99 9:54 AM
>>
>> >At 10:28 PM 20/5/99 -0400, Capt JT wrote:
>> >>Mike
>> >>I agree with you as it is up to the diver as if he sees a need to carry it
>> >>..The only reason this thread is going is because one of the WKPP boys has
>> >>said you don't need a second BT and then someone disagrees with him.
>> >
>> >JT, you, Susan, bigbird and others have missed the point.
>> >
>> >They can dive with an armload of bottom timers. That's
>> >their business. Who gives a root. But
>> >1) they shouldn't kid themselves that it's DIR.
>> >2) they shouldn't try to convince others that it's DIR.
>> >
>> >When the personal preference crowd like Susan & bigbird
>> >mess with the DIR concept, look what happens, they start
>> >spreading and encouraging ignorant idiocy like this.....
>> >
>> >>"My understanding is that the DIR method includes the
>> >>reduction of clutter and the minimizing of potential
>> >>failure points. Can you really consider a backup BT as
>> >>clutter, or an additional failure point? How are people
>> >>configuring this backup timer on their gear where it is
>> >>considered clutter? I choose not to wear my BT on my
>> >>wrist, but on a console, clipped on the left d ring as
>> >>in DIR. Is this extra 4 inches of console clutter? "
>> >
>> >This person is now claiming that diving with a goddamn
>> >console is DIR!!!!
>> >
>> >If susan just wants to say "I dive with a back-up bottom
>> >timer." That's her business.
>> >
>> >If she wants to tell people that what she's diving is DIR,
>> >she'll get corrected.
>> >
>> >rgds     billyw
>> >
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