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From: "Sean M. Cary" <SMCARY@MI*.CO*>
To: "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*>, "Billy Williams" <bdi@wh*.ne*>,
     "Tech Diver"
Subject: Re: Redundant & Buddies & DIR
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:44:00 -0400
>So why do I do it? The fact is that solo deco diving is very dangerous
>and moves me that much closer to death, which increases the adrenlin rush
>and improves the dive experience. There is nothing more spine-tingling,
>sinus clearing and anus clenching than the realization that you have just
>fucked up and there is absolutely nobody there to help you. Talk about
>motivation to solve the problem. Talk about a rush.

Jim...wouldn't that make you a STROKE?

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: Billy Williams <bdi@wh*.ne*>; Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Friday, May 21, 1999 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: Redundant & Buddies & DIR


>Billy-
>
>This is the point I have tried to make over and over and apparently it's
>very hard for people to understand this.
>
>1. Nobody really cares how you config your gear.
>2. DIR is system. You can't take bits and pieces of DIR and call yourself
>a DIR diver.
>
>Thats all. Personally I like to dive solo, thus I am not a DIR diver. As
>a solo diver I take 2 devices with me. I do promote DIR and would like to
>have a DIR partner, but they are hard to find and I find that diving solo
>is much less stressful when not having to worry about a "mystery buddy".
>
>I also firmly believe that a DIR buddy team has a much better chance of
>surviving an extreme dive than a solo diver. The Navy SEALs understand
>this, as the core of the teams are the swim buddies. Both come back or
>neither come back is what's expected of them (to take it to an another
>extreme).
>
>So why do I do it? The fact is that solo deco diving is very dangerous
>and moves me that much closer to death, which increases the adrenlin rush
>and improves the dive experience. There is nothing more spine-tingling,
>sinus clearing and anus clenching than the realization that you have just
>fucked up and there is absolutely nobody there to help you. Talk about
>motivation to solve the problem. Talk about a rush.
>
>Now DIR also says to "do it right or don't do it at all", so I am not
>DIR. While my gear is DIR rigged, I'm still not doing it right.
>
>The real argument here is "I want to be a same-ocean buddy diver and
>still call myself DIR" well, you can't and as you have seen from this
>thread, you won't get away with it...
>
>   Jim
>
>Sender: Billy Williams  Date: 5/21/99 9:54 AM
>
>>At 10:28 PM 20/5/99 -0400, Capt JT wrote:
>>>Mike
>>>I agree with you as it is up to the diver as if he sees a need to carry
it
>>>..The only reason this thread is going is because one of the WKPP boys
has
>>>said you don't need a second BT and then someone disagrees with him.
>>
>>JT, you, Susan, bigbird and others have missed the point.
>>
>>They can dive with an armload of bottom timers. That's
>>their business. Who gives a root. But
>>1) they shouldn't kid themselves that it's DIR.
>>2) they shouldn't try to convince others that it's DIR.
>>
>>When the personal preference crowd like Susan & bigbird
>>mess with the DIR concept, look what happens, they start
>>spreading and encouraging ignorant idiocy like this.....
>>
>>>"My understanding is that the DIR method includes the
>>>reduction of clutter and the minimizing of potential
>>>failure points. Can you really consider a backup BT as
>>>clutter, or an additional failure point? How are people
>>>configuring this backup timer on their gear where it is
>>>considered clutter? I choose not to wear my BT on my
>>>wrist, but on a console, clipped on the left d ring as
>>>in DIR. Is this extra 4 inches of console clutter? "
>>
>>This person is now claiming that diving with a goddamn
>>console is DIR!!!!
>>
>>If susan just wants to say "I dive with a back-up bottom
>>timer." That's her business.
>>
>>If she wants to tell people that what she's diving is DIR,
>>she'll get corrected.
>>
>>rgds     billyw
>>
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