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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 06:55:14 -0700
To: "Club Red" <clubred@in*.co*>
From: S I L E N T I M M E R S I O N <silent@cu*.ne*>
Subject: Re: I do care
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Hugo,

You are really showing what an idiot you are now. 

>6. I'm becoming proud of being a STROKE. You're a CRIMINAL for not doing
>anything than closing your eyes (I wonder how do you keep your mind open
>with the eyes closed?) and discuss endlessly about what I should do.
>Righteously. Let me laugh...

>Please, stop teaching me any moral lessons. You're not qualified.

You give me the impression you think you are qualified by saying that I am
CRIMINAL FOR NOT TEACHING DEEP AIR. You do make me laugh... 

Well, I guess we will have to end this stupidity now Hugo, I can not be
bothered discussing any more at this stage. 
It would really be nice to see some guy start teaching DIR in your area.
The divers could greatly benefit from that. To bad it will not be you.

THOMAS


At 09:52 AM 5/20/99 +0300, you wrote:
>Hi Thomas
>
>>After adopting DIR, rule nr1 comes into play: Don't dive with strokes. :-)
>1. I would have to do solo dives then. Catch 22.
>
>>To see the bottom of the Blue Hole, is that  worth the risk of
>>diving deep air? Not for me.
>2. Pay attention to what other people write. I'm trying to stop the people
>from going to the bottom of the Blue Hole... on air.
>
>>Anybody who does not understand the concept, does not want to dive
>>DIR, won't get any training. It's that simple.
>3. Most of those guys I have taught would rather do 60m for 20mn now then
>100m for 2 mn. I do give them a better chance of survival. They also seem to
>have more fun.
>
>>How can they be good buddies to another diver?
>4. They don't have to. Deep air diving means TOTAL self-sufficiency. That
>means solo diving, even if I have a buddy (Yes, it's more FUN to share
>experiences...). I'm responsible for myself, mate, I don't need your
>assistance. Last time I single-handled the Atlantic I didn't ask for your
>help. Thanks.
>
>>What I do not understand is why you would not adopt DIR for your technical
>>training facility if you like it.
>5. Because it completely IRREALISTIC at this stage. And also because I enjoy
>getting drunk sometimes... Next one who tells me he doesn't do it any more
>can look around him. He has a good chance to be alone. Will have to solo
>dive then...
>
>>Typical deep air diver over here uses only a computer for decompression,
>>single tank configuration, regular bcd. Hits 100m or more and breggs about
>>it at night  at the local bar while having some beers.[...].Over here just
>>as many people die yearly (usually marines), over here He is just as
>>expensive, over here you find the same macho mentality regarding deep air.
>>But, I will never fool anybody saying that I can teach them how to
>>"properly" do deep air dives.
>
>6. I'm becoming proud of being a STROKE. You're a CRIMINAL for not doing
>anything than closing your eyes (I wonder how do you keep your mind open
>with the eyes closed?) and discuss endlessly about what I should do.
>Righteously. Let me laugh...
>
>Please, stop teaching me any moral lessons. You're not qualified.
>
>Regards.
>
>Hugo.
>
>--Original Message-----
>From: S I L E N T I M M E R S I O N <silent@cu*.ne*>
>To: techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>Cc: Club Red <clubred@in*.co*>
>Date: Thursday, May 20, 1999 12:44 AM
>Subject: Re: I do care
>
>
>>Hugo,
>>
>>After adopting DIR, rule nr1 comes into play: Don't dive with strokes. :-)
>>
>>>I'm extremely impressed by the safety records at WKPP. I have no problem
>>>diving DIR, myself. I'm willing to learn from other people's experience.
>>>That's why I'm interested in this list.
>>
>>What I do not understand is why you would not adopt DIR for your technical
>>training facility if you like it.
>>I did. Anybody who does not understand the concept, does not want to dive
>>DIR, won't get any training. It's that simple.
>>
>>You still believe that you can actually make people better deep air divers.
>>How do you exactly do that? How can they be good buddies to another diver?
>>You need that sharp focus trimix gives you to be able to react in the right
>>way within a split second when there is a problem during a deep dive.
>>
>>Making a decision on how to do a technical dive needs a risk-benefit
>>comparison. To see the bottom of the Blue Hole, is that  worth the risk of
>>diving deep air? Not for me.
>>And usually the guys that believe that the risk is minimal do not know the
>>real risks associated with deep air anyway.
>>
>>Typical deep air diver over here uses only a computer for decompression,
>>single tank configuration, regular bcd. Hits 100m or more and breggs about
>>it at night  at the local bar while having some beers...
>>
>>So what's the problem with incorporating a solid safety mentality in your
>>operation? Maybe you will say: I will loose my customers... Well, maybe the
>>market isn't ready then or your marketing isn't good enough. Over here just
>>as many people die yearly (usually marines), over here He is just as
>>expensive, over here you find the same macho mentality regarding deep air.
>>But, I will never fool anybody saying that I can teach them how to
>>"properly" do deep air dives.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>THOMAS
>>
>>
>
>
>
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