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From: <bdi@wh*.ne*>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 09:54:45 +1000
To: "Club Red" <clubred@in*.co*>
Subject: Re: I do care
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
At 10:27 AM 20/5/99 +0300, Club Red wrote:
>Hi Billy
>
>
>Well at this point I think I don't agree with the totality of the DIR. Many
>good points, though, but way too inapropriate for my environment.

We've been through that before on the techdiver and cave diver
lists. We got positive reports from people who dive Hogarth
in the Caribbean, Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand, the Pacific
Islands, East coast US, West Coast US, Brazil, Scandinavia, 
Holland, Germany, the UK, and Australia. The DIR system works 
anywhere there's water. It works everywhere else in the world. 
What's so special about your water?

>>Maybe it's time to stand up and call a stroke a stroke
>>and a dickhead a dickhead, instead of feeding their
>>egos.
>An hypocrit an hypocrit. An airhead an airhead. A fanatic a fanatic. a
>wanker a wanker. And so on...

Yep. A schmuck's a schmuck, and a loop's a loop.
Now you've got it. 
>
>Right Billy, what'problem do all this people have with the use of wetsuit?
>Didn't I hear 'if you don't need it don't take it'? Don't the extra cost and
>technical complication and likelyhood of failure of a drysuit outrageously
>outweight the benefits of a smaller wing in open-water?

I think you need to take a longer closer look at DIR
and hogarth. You'll find it is recognised that a wet
suit is appropriate for some conditions - warm tropical
water, for example. You just need to dive appropriate
cylinders with the wetsuit - alloys. Forget wing-size.
It isn't part of the wetsuit/drysuit debate.

>Yep manifolds are a big plus. I'm not going to refuse to dive with someone
>who doesn't use one though. They are just too expensive, impractical to
>travel with, have them refilled, to be considered mandatory. Here at least.

a) Expensive? Then sell your hideously expensive 
tech BC and put the money towards a manifold.

b) Travelling with two tanks banded and manifolded
together is only marginally more difficult than 
travelling with two separate tanks.

c) It's easier to fill two manifolded cylinders than 
two separate cylinders.
>
>I'd rather use my T2 than a backplate. Is that also a tumbling rock???

A Transpak II? Great! You can sell it and get the 
manifold and the backplate.

>Happy to find someone more open-minded than others.

I like the book "The One Straw Revolution". It's an
oldie but a goodie. A year ago in Australia there was 
only one hogarth diver, me. Now there are four. Next 
year sixteen. And so on. 

All the best

rgds billyw 
>
>
>PS: Keep your insults for yourself please. The fucking idiot might well have
>been your father.

Hugo, 1) it is no insult to refer to a drunk driver as a fucking idiot.
      2) My old man doesn't drink.
      3) Why so defensive?

rgrds  billyw

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